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1G Auto guys, front clutches question.

Posted by 1990TSIAWDTALON, Feb 13, 2019 at 8:41 PM

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  1. 1990TSIAWDTALON

    1990TSIAWDTALON Moderator

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    Hey this is for any Auto Trans member.
    I have my motor out, big upgrade. Trans is still in the car and was working great as a stock trans with a ShiftBox 100.1
    Is it possible to replace the front clutch pack with the trans still sitting in the car?
    Thats its current state and it really needs a Kiggly 6 pak upgrade before I couple her back together.
    Thoughts???
    Opinions??
    Options?
    Thanks all! :thumb:
    Marty
     

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  2. OH91awd

    OH91awd Proven Member

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    is this going to be more of a track car with a good amount of hp?

    edit: i totally read that wrong LOL. should be able to with the engine out of the car. might be kinda cramped but doable
     
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  3. Boomdeeze

    Boomdeeze Proven Member

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    If the motor is out you definitely can do the front clutch. The pump is exposed when you pull the converter out (which you slide right out with the engine removed), pull the pump and slide basket assembly out.

    If you drive the car on the road much, I would be careful with the 6 disk. I have that installed in my car and pulled the basket after a few hundred miles and found the metal plates (thinner in 6 pack rather than 5) had some heat coloring from the continuous road driving. I have two trans coolers so my temps are never above 190.
     

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    OH91awd Proven Member

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    thats what i was thinking on the 6 pack setups. they werent as street friendly as the 5 pack is.
     

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    Boomdeeze Proven Member

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    Does hold the power like a champ though! Never had a problem with the 5 holding power either, just go billet basket and call it a day (my next trans upgraded)
     

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    OH91awd Proven Member

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    ive got the 5 pack in my trans now and theyve done me well so far. i think i should be fine with the setup i have in the trans now on the motor/ turbo combo i currently have. not sure on the motor im putting together LOL
     

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    I made the mistake of using my 6 disk kiggly kit on the street and when I took the trans out related to my convertor issue I couldnt believe how much wear they had. They do not stand up well to street/strip type of driving. Id stick with the kiggly 5......I however bit the bullet and im running the Billet kiggly unit. Best decision ive ever made....other than switching to auto. The w4a33 is so easy to work on.
     

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  8. 1990TSIAWDTALON

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    You guys are the guys that I hoped would chime in. Thanks. I will street drive it so it sounds like rhe 5 clutch set is best for me. It is going to see some hp and now my concern is the splines on the output shaft which are wore.
    I sure appreciate the opinions and advice! If you have any other comments, please, by all means put it on here.
    Marty
     

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    How much wear are we talking about?
     

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    1990TSIAWDTALON Moderator

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    Enough to notice by the eye. Haven't measured it yet. And the car was a bone stock car but has 180k on it.
     

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    Welll if you ever need a trans ..... i have 8 :D
     

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    1990TSIAWDTALON Moderator

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    You HOARDER....
    I have NO ROOM TO TALK ROFL.
    I took a picture while I stabbed a car in the shop preparing for an ice storm.
    Here it is. Its wore good.
    And thanks for the offer. I have a spare bought but dont know how to ship it to me. 20190214_194642.jpg 20190214_194655.jpg
     

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    We all are if we're honest about it haha. But @amsrn13 truly has a ton of autos, I joked with him that he's the reason I can't find an auto anywhere close to me ROFL
     

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  14. Boomdeeze

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    We are all guilty of it! I have three spare tcases, two spare transmissions, one spare rear diff and a partridge in a pear tree haha

    That output shaft looks similar to the one on a spare trans of mine so I wouldn't jump to the conclusion that it is worn. Measure the shaft from the tip of the spline to the tip of the spline and compare it to the input on the tcase, I've never done those measurements or else I would give you numbers.
     

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    Will do! Open to any and all suggestions (and donations) ROFL
    Thanks!!!
     

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