any ideas on what turbo to run on my build

[95talontsiwv]

Hello , im building a 91 talon tsi awd, an was wondering what turbos size would work best on my setup.an give me the best power.

engine mods= eagle rods , 8.5:1 wiseco pistons, balance shaft elim. , mls head gasket, head studs, pte 880cc injectors, stock cams for now

suport mods== dsmlink v.3 , eprom ecu, 255fp, 3" gm maf, coil & plug, after market fuel reg, fmic , 2600 clutch ,

stock drive train.

 

[TalonTsi_291]

An evo 3 big 16g would do great. I have a friend running one on a build quite similar to yours. A 50 trim would probably do great too. Someone else might wanna chime in but an HX-35 might be in your range also.

 

[GSXSixteenG]

It depends what you want and are willing to pay.

 

[STGIIITsi]

I believe the 16G will be too small for those mods check into a 5557E from Punishment or another company. That turbo will be great for now with spool and all and be capable of more in the future when you do get cams. I was going to get that turbo for my build but oppted to step up another notch cause it was not capable of my goal cause things change so give that one a poss shot or if anything look into the FP series turbos too thats what I'm getting ready to put on my Evo. 6262 is going on my TSI.

 

[95talontsiwv]

Thanks , have a slowboy 50g here an have access to a hx35, i plan on installing 272 cams real soon . i have a TDO5HR-16G6-9.8T EVO VII/VIII TURBO IF ANYONE IS INTERESTED IN IT ITS NEW NEVER BOLTED TO ANYTHING

THANKS AGAIN ILL DO THE REASEARCH ON THE TURBOS YOU LISTED

 

[JusMX141]

i have a TDO5HR-16G6-9.8T EVO VII/VIII TURBO IF ANYONE IS INTERESTED IN IT ITS NEW NEVER BOLTED TO ANYTHING

What good will that do any of us?

 

[kp116]

Hx35, fp3065 or something similar to those I think would be a good turbo for your set up.

 

[95talontsiwv]

what good would it do to any of you , they make an adaptor to bolt it to a 1g/2g manifold

 

[JusMX141]

what good would it do to any of you , they make an adaptor to bolt it to a 1g/2g manifold

Does this magical adapter which somehow adapts a single-scroll DSM manifold flange to a twin-scroll Evo VIII/IX turbine housing inlet flange also have a way to make the turbo rotate the opposite direction? If not, you'll be dealing with moving your MAS to the driver's side and somehow fabbing a downpipe to work as well. Not efficient.

 

[95talontsiwv]

why do some people have to always have a smart ass answer. yes the magical adaptor does both things you ask.. have pic if you want ? i didnt state it was efficient did I. no all i said was they make an adator for it.

 

[Nati0nalxCrisis]

Bah calm down. No need for that.

In my opinion I'd say go with Holset, they have great quality turbo's and there's like a billion page review about them tech section. You could read for days, and I have yet to see one bad thing in there about the turbo's.

Anyway, an evo 8 turbo would be nice to have yes. Would it be logical and worth it? I think not.

 

[95talontsiwv]

thank you i sold the evo VIII turbo , i got a great deal on a hahn super 20-g with megan manifold that is capable of making the hp range i want to be in .

 

[BoostFrenzy]

Anyway, an evo 8 turbo would be nice to have yes. Would it be logical and worth it? I think not.

Not to mention the fact that it wont work without way too much modification for it to be worth it. Only Evo turbo that will/can work are the EvoIII and X.

 

[BigBeans]

The FP3065 is too big for 880cc injectors.

 

[JusMX141]

yes the magical adaptor does both things you ask.. have pic if you want ?

Post 'er up. I'd also like to see some examples of guys using said adapter to see how well the turbo fits without relocating their radiator to the rear of the car....because here's how it would look otherwise.

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[95talontsiwv]

Enough about the evo viii turbo all i said is i have one whitch i sold an they make an adator for it . I wasnt going to put it on my car anyway . I really dont give a shit about it . Was looking for input on a turbo for my car. Whitch i did get an thanks to the guys that gave me input on that. I have a turbo for it now .

 

[Cassera]

Well based on the mods you have you can run high boost and a pretty big turbo due to the higher compression and the headstuds and fuel mods. The 16g in my opinion would be a little too small. I would reccomend the Sleeper 16 (20g compressor wheel in a 16g housing) but it is pretty expensive and the housing would restrict it, the sleeper would be GREAT for street use IMO. I would go with either an 18g or a 20g. Maybe even an FP Green to get you set up for higher hp goals.
In my opinion if you get cams that will set you up for the bigger FP Green and really spool that baby up!

 

[xhackerekx]

20g compressor wheel in a TDO5 housing on 3100rpm i have 23psi boost for AWD dsm is good choice.

 

[95talontsiwv]

here what i went with TDO6H-20G-TDO5H-10CM2 hahn super 20g turbo. an a megan manifold thanks for all your input ill get pics of build on when i get done .

 

[JusMX141]

here what i went with TDO6H-20G-TDO5H-10CM2 hahn super 20g turbo. an a megan manifold

Poor choice unless you're running a shit ton of boost.

The 10cm2 turbine housing is designed for use on higher compression or higher displacement applications. This is the housing Hahn uses on their turbo kits which fit stock cars, and is also the same housing spec used on the 17C which comes stock on the 4.3 V6 Cyclone / Typhoon engines. That's over double the displacement of the 2.0 4G63.

Hahn obviously didn't want to lose the market for DSMs, so they made a shitty adapter to adapt the T3 Hahn housing to a DSM manifold, as well as an o2 housing that fits our stock application as well.



As stated above, it's not a bad choice for a DSM, but you need to have high compression pistons or be running a ton of boost to make the 10cm2 housing worth having....otherwise, all you're getting is lots of added lag.

If you wanted a 20G you should've bought one with a 7cm2 DSM bolt-on turbine housing; as-is you probably would've been better off keeping the Evo VIII turbo and buying a magical adapter.

 

[VETTE_50_TH]

hx 35, 20g td05h/td06/td06h, evo 3 16g, s256, HTA63, FP 3052, there are endless amounts of turbos you can run. And dont argue with Justin, hes not a wiseman because he makes wise ass remarks. :wink:

 

[95talontsiwv]

Thanks for all the input , this is my first dsm build. Taking in all the input i can . Im stuburn in some ways learn by trial an error. Im trying to keep this thing as street friendly as possable but have hp to play on the weekends. Not looking to be #1 around my erea just be in the top mix.

 

[edsgst]

When my big 16g crapped out years ago, I switched to a Hahn S20g and ran that for a few years. The power was good, and even with the 10cm housing, spool wasn't that bad. I'd see boost come on at about 2300 rpm, and full boost (22psi) before 4500. Not the snappiest response, but being front drive, a little lag was a good thing. Here's the but....if you're not fully committed to the Hahn S20g, I would reconsider running it.

It's not a bad turbo, but I too, think there are better options. Since hind sight is 20/20, and knowing what I know now (which isn't much), when my old 16g took a crap, I wish I would've put on the HX35. Much more turbo than the Hahn for a comparable cost. Not only am I sure you'll make more power at the same boost levels as the Hahn, but you will have a lot more room for later if you choose to crank it up.

One other thing we have in common is the Megan Racing T3 manifold. I got
the same manifold for the Hahn because I was sick and tired of the spacer and
adapter plates leaking all the time (the same shitty adapter Jusmx141 was
referring to), and I just needed a quick fix. Well, it's been almost two years and
even with a much larger turbo hanging off of it, it hasn't cracked yet. I braced
it from the bottom, on the downpipe, so apparently that helped. I keep waiting
for the excuse to buy an ERL...

Anyway, it's obviously not the best manifold out there, but for a $200 band-aid,
it does the job quite well. The best thing about it is the clearance. I have a big Garrett on there now, and it clears the block and water pipe no problem. If you use it, just make sure to brace it from somewhere solid underneath, and it wouldn't hurt to maybe shore up the welds a bit. I'm not brave enough to use ebay for mechanical parts, but I'll try other stuff.

I hope whatever you choose works out for ya...

 

[jestoy7]

Thanks for all the input , this is my first dsm build. Taking in all the input i can . Im stuburn in some ways learn by trial an error. Im trying to keep this thing as street friendly as possable but have hp to play on the weekends. Not looking to be #1 around my erea just be in the top mix.

Stubborn isn't even the word. You were corrected and didn't even admit to or apologize for it. Why ask for advice if you aren't even willing to consider it?

If you want streetability, I would recommend the new FP HTA068. It spools like a 16g and can make upwards of 400hp. The only thing is that it is more expensive compared to the cheap Holsets.

 

[95talontsiwv]

Im am thankfull for everyones opinions an do consider some of the things said .
so thanks again.