Any ideas on what i should mod on my 97 spyder gst

[britdog]

Just would like some mod ideas for my 97 spyder gst

 

[DSMxJB]

Tech Guide: 2G 4G63t Upgrades - DSMtuners

 

[Pauly D]

Maintenance the free mods then follow the link posted above.

I meant to say then free mods.

 

[shay4g63]

start by cleanning that engine bay up!.. then do all the services(even if the guy that sold you the car said everything was done, just re-do it). then free mods. then the search button

 

[daneatsv8s]

After doing all the maintenance, I would suggest replacing the intercooler piping with hard piping. Over time the stock rubber hoses tend to dry up and crack which causes boost leaks. You can look at it as doing preventative maintenance and doing a performance mod at the same time.

 

[britdog]

well my plans for now is new headers. wrapping the headers in heat wrap along with the upper radiator hose. then a cold air intake. and later a front mount intercooler and all new hard pipe to replace the old. i did a little bit of cleaning and an oil change..all synthetic. filled up the coolent. and the tranny fluid. and break fluid

 

[Boostinsideways]

Timing belt. Its critical. It sucks doing it but, headwork/full rebuild will suck even more.

No point in replacing the turbo manifold (the thing you called headers) the stock turbo manifold is proven to flow fine to around 400 HP. And the stock heatshields are fine for it too. If you want you could remove them, clean them, and spray them with VHT ceramic paint. That would increase the amount of heat they block, and make them look better.

A good front mount is a good idea if you plan to upgrade turbos to a 16g or better. But if your just sticking with the t-25 then its a bad idea. You will loose boost response unless you got with a rather small core and short route pipes.

Seriously start here : Tech Guide: 2G 4G63t Upgrades: Stage 0 Power - DSMtuners

Then here : http://www.dsmtuners.com/2g_dsm_300hp_mods

But the basic path you want to follow is Maintenance, Intake, Exhaust, Boost, Tuning.

Whenever you get a new dsm

Step 1 : Timing Belt
Step 2 : Tune up (Plugs, Wires, Oil, Transmission Gear Oil, Verify Wide open Throttle, Boost Leak Test)
Step 3 : Air Filter Element (Upgrade to K&N or AEM or Injen)
Step 4 : Intake (Injen / Dejon / Forced Performance)
Step 5 : Cat Back exhaust
Step 6 : Downpipe
Step 7 : Blowoff valve (you allready got an upgraded one) Boost Controller, Boost Gauge
Step 8 : Walbro 190 LPH Fuel Pump, Fuel pump rewire kit
Step 9 : Wideband o2 sensor and tuning/logging (Pocket logger + Safc or DSM Link V3 Lite)



Its proven methods that work. This isn't a honda, and just throwing bolt-ons at it isn't going to make it any quicker, and can make it slower.

 

[Paching]

I don't want to sound like a jackass but do a search and a lot of reading because only you know what you want out of your car.

 

[Aceman]

But the basic path you want to follow is Maintenance, Intake, Exhaust, Boost, Tuning.

Whenever you get a new dsm

Step 1 : Timing Belt
Step 2 : Tune up (Plugs, Wires, Oil, Transmission Gear Oil, Verify Wide open Throttle, Boost Leak Test)
Step 3 : Air Filter Element (Upgrade to K&N or AEM or Injen)
Step 4 : Intake (Injen / Dejon / Forced Performance)
Step 5 : Cat Back exhaust
Step 6 : Downpipe
Step 7 : Blowoff valve (you allready got an upgraded one) Boost Controller, Boost Gauge
Step 8 : Walbro 190 LPH Fuel Pump, Fuel pump rewire kit
Step 9 : Wideband o2 sensor and tuning/logging (Pocket logger + Safc or DSM Link V3 Lite)

Mix in some suspension/handling (including some good tires) upgrades for some real fun

 

[britdog]

okay, before i bought the car off a buddy we rebuilt the head and a new waterpump and timing belt. it has a new exhaust manifold(just the stock one) a new t25 turbo a new boost gauge and a manuel boost controller and a cold air filter

Oh and i forgot it has a catback. No high flow cat or downpipe :/

 

[ross4g63spyder]

id start with hard piping and cold air intake

 

[90YellowTSI]

headers heat wrapped and a cold air intake? no hondas here!

 

[wdawson4]

headers heat wrapped and a cold air intake? no hondas here!

this guy is funny but he is right.
Plus in a 4cyl application it would be "header" not headers which implies that there are 2 manifolds.

 

[ed1380]

Timing belt. Its critical. It sucks doing it but, headwork/full rebuild will suck even more.

No point in replacing the turbo manifold (the thing you called headers) the stock turbo manifold is proven to flow fine to around 400 HP. And the stock heatshields are fine for it too. If you want you could remove them, clean them, and spray them with VHT ceramic paint. That would increase the amount of heat they block, and make them look better.

A good front mount is a good idea if you plan to upgrade turbos to a 16g or better. But if your just sticking with the t-25 then its a bad idea. You will loose boost response unless you got with a rather small core and short route pipes.

Seriously start here : Tech Guide: 2G 4G63t Upgrades: Stage 0 Power - DSMtuners

Then here : Tech Guide: 2G 4G63t Upgrades: Stage 1 Power - DSMtuners

But the basic path you want to follow is Maintenance, Intake, Exhaust, Boost, Tuning.

Whenever you get a new dsm

Step 1 : Timing Belt
Step 2 : Tune up (Plugs, Wires, Oil, Transmission Gear Oil, Verify Wide open Throttle, Boost Leak Test)
Step 3 : Air Filter Element (Upgrade to K&N or AEM or Injen)
Step 4 : Intake (Injen / Dejon / Forced Performance)
Step 5 : Cat Back exhaust
Step 6 : Downpipe
Step 7 : Blowoff valve (you allready got an upgraded one) Boost Controller, Boost Gauge
Step 8 : Walbro 190 LPH Fuel Pump, Fuel pump rewire kit
Step 9 : Wideband o2 sensor and tuning/logging (Pocket logger + Safc or DSM Link V3 Lite)
step10: bigger injectors
step 11: bigger turbo (14b or 16g)



Its proven methods that work. This isn't a honda, and just throwing bolt-ons at it isn't going to make it any quicker, and can make it slower.

added a couple of steps

 

[907gs-t]

Could also go with the FP BT-28 for a direct bolt-on turbo.

 

[TimF]

I finished my maintenance and the first thing im doing is cat less turbo back

 

[Awdspyderman]

AWD SPYDER SWAP WOULD BE MY FIRST MOD!!!!! JK but for real do all the maintanance.

 

[britdog]

my car also has a rebuilt head new head gasket and timing belt along with a new water pump. boost controller,boost gauge,new t25 turbo,and cold air filter. this is all done a month before i bought her. Now i just ordered a cold air intake, and have plans on a front mount and then a 16g turbo

 

[ed1380]

dont forget at least 550cc injectors and rewire the fuel pump or get a walbro 190

 

[britdog]

ok so if im just doing a cold air intake. fmic. 2.5" piping and a 16g turbo will i need to upgrade the fuel injectors and pump??

 

[ed1380]

if you want to run more than stock boost, then yes. at least 550's. stock rewired fuel pump can almost max out the 550's which is around 350hp.

 

[britdog]

I feel stupid for asking this but what do you mean by rewire the fuel pump

 

[ed1380]

Just Google "rewire fuel pump" its the first few links showing different methods

 

[britdog]

Okay thanks man

Just thought i would give everyone an update on what im doing to my car. I just ordered a cold air intake hard pipe. Im gettin a 16g turbo. ported stock exhaust manifold. open o2 dump. j pipe for about 325 of my buddy. Then ill be saving up for some 550cc injectors and a walbro 190 fuel pump. Hopefully a front mount intercooler as well