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Another thing...How beneficial would it be to get cam rods and cam gears along with new ecu? Is it a good idea to get it all done while the head is apart and will I see big gains over the stock rods and gears? Reason I ask is because the reflashed ecu and rebuilt parts of the head comes to around $500 (which isn't too bad for being able to rev to 7800 rpm safely)... The cam rods and gears would be over $600 and now I would be looking at over a $1000 which is a lot of money to be investing in my non turbo. So should I go with rods and cams on top of the head rebuild or is not worth the money for the gains?
 
EclipseGS4651 said:
Another thing...How beneficial would it be to get cam rods and cam gears along with new ecu? Is it a good idea to get it all done while the head is apart and will I see big gains over the stock rods and gears? Reason I ask is because the reflashed ecu and rebuilt parts of the head comes to around $500 (which isn't too bad for being able to rev to 7800 rpm safely)... The cam rods and gears would be over $600 and now I would be looking at over a $1000 which is a lot of money to be investing in my non turbo. So should I go with rods and cams on top of the head rebuild or is not worth the money for the gains?

i hear the gains on those are great, and it would definatly save you money to do it all at once, if your paying someone to install it, and it would save you a bunch of time if your installing it.

i thought it was the cams that couldnt handle the righer redline, and the lifters lashers ect. that couldnt handle the bigger lobes on the upgraded cams?? :confused:
 
GSGoinFast said:
i hear the gains on those are great, and it would definatly save you money to do it all at once, if your paying someone to install it, and it would save you a bunch of time if your installing it.

i thought it was the cams that couldnt handle the righer redline, and the lifters lashers ect. that couldnt handle the bigger lobes on the upgraded cams?? :confused:

nope. people have been running bigger cams on n/t's and neons with stock heads for years now. you can prolly run as high as 0016 or Crower 2's on stock head or block; anything higher, and you need higher compression and built head. the higher redline and advanced timing from the ecu , on stock springs and retainers could cause your valves to float; and the stronger PT lifters / rockers help evry thing from crashing as well.
 
i stand corrected then. one thing to note, if you get upgraded cams with greater lift, and you get the higher redline, your power band is gonna jimp a bit higher and your going to loose some low end. i believe a lot of low end.
 
miamieclipse said:
umm you definetly are going to need to upgrade your lifters & rockers. If you upgrade cams you will need to get better/new retainers & springs. Are you really going to trust your stock lifers, rockers, retainers & springs which were designed to never go past 7200rpm? Well if you do have fun LOL, i would invest the $$$ in new lifters rockers etc etc


Well maybe its how you take of your car all the way up to it's turbocharging. Remember HRC got over 450WHP and 11.5 in the 1/4 with a compeletely STOCK head. I'm fairly certain that means lifters, rockers, springs, and retainers. But again, I'm sure it has to do with what your cars been through in the past few years. But upgrading your valve train wouldnt be a bad idea when your turboing with upgraded Camshafts. Just use the likes Mike(miamieclipse) posted, and you'll be fine. :thumb: :dsm: :talon: :laser:
 
Initial DSM said:
nope. people have been running bigger cams on n/t's and neons with stock heads for years now. you can prolly run as high as 0016 or Crower 2's on stock head or block; anything higher, and you need higher compression and built head. the higher redline and advanced timing from the ecu , on stock springs and retainers could cause your valves to float; and the stronger PT lifters / rockers help evry thing from crashing as well.

So with the reflashed ecu with new redline to 7800 RPM, upgraded lifters, rockers, retainers, and springs, and the cams and cam rods, I should see some pretty good gains? Also would I need to get the rods and cams dyno tuned? If anyone can provide a link to cam rods that would be good in this setup it would be very helpful, because I have looked at the crower rods and I am confused when it says idle 6500 RPM. By the way, I am looking for an all motor set up and would probably eventually port and polish the intake manifold and get a 60mm tb if that helps.

Thanks,
Erik
 
EclipseGS4651 said:
So with the reflashed ecu with new redline to 7800 RPM, upgraded lifters, rockers, retainers, and springs, and the cams and cam rods, I should see some pretty good gains? Also would I need to get the rods and cams dyno tuned? If anyone can provide a link to cam rods that would be good in this setup it would be very helpful, because I have looked at the crower rods and I am confused when it says idle 6500 RPM. By the way, I am looking for an all motor set up and would probably eventually port and polish the intake manifold and get a 60mm tb if that helps.

Thanks,
Erik

it says idle to 6500, which would mean the cams are good from your normal idle, to 6500, or the power band would peak at around 6500. fastest 2g fwd huh? faster than any GS-T? hot damn that would be sweet!
 
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