1G ACT 3200 Question

[a91eagletalon]

I was considering the ACT 3200 but I can't relly find any update stuff on here about how ppl like this cluch or not

I am going back and forth between the 3200 and the 2900

I am planing on making 600 HP at least that's the goal

There is not a very big price difference between the two but don't know if the 3200 will be two hard on stuff

Also was going to run the 6 puck sprung disk

The car will also be a daily but I am not worried about drivability

This will be a dig racing car only

Let me know your thoughts guys

Thanks
MJP

 

[Vegas Smith]

A dig-racing, daily-driven 600hp dsm? That doesn't add up.

 

[a91eagletalon]

So your saying it can't be done or what

I just need some advice on the clutch choice

 

[DSMPT]

My experience, I had been using the 2900 with the rigid 4 puck disk. At that moment the car was making 612hp / 447 lbs according to the virtual dyno from AEM log. It was holding well. The pedal was stiffer than stock of course but was ok for me. Not everyday but I was using this car in the city often.

 

[a91eagletalon]

I am worried if I go unsprung I will break stuff.

The reason I made this thread is I will be up grading some parts to hit my 600 HP goal and the currant cluch I have now I just striped the spline's in the center disk and it was unsprung I don't know if this relates to the unsprung cluch I had in it bit I also went through a built tranny broke a gear so I am nervous about going unsprung BUT if that is what I have to do to make this work then I will

 

[bastarddsm]

Youll have trouble getting the 2900 and 3200 to release. I'm putting 600whp through a 2600 4 puck and it ain't showing any signs of giving up yet. Even on slicks.
The sprung disc is only helpful during normal driving. If you are going to street drive, I recommend a sprung disc.

 

[19gsx91]

I'm not sure what you're running for a clutch now but if you've got any back or leg issues idk if i'd recommend something that stiff, especially with a 6 puck if you're going to daily it. I'm daily driving my car with an ACT 2600 kit with a street disc and going into cities is a nightmare for me, but I have 2 impacted vertebrata so some days are better then others.. Have you looked into twin disc setups at all?

 

[a91eagletalon]

I have looked into twin disks they are pricey and I did know what the milage I would get out of it I have heard they get about 10000 to 15000 miles before they need replaced I am not saying I am trying to cheap out but if I can getaway from going twin then I will The currant cluch I was running was a south bend ssx pressure plate and a ACT 6 puck unsprung and I am not worryed about peddle weight I can handle it

 

[DSMPT]

I agree with the comments above if you use the car mostly daily and worried about giving impact to the drivetrain parts, a sprung or a street disk is less harsh to the drivetrain parts.
This is also from my experience, I used to use a sprung 6 puck disk, too. I was also worried about giving impact to the drivetrain parts since I had a Galant VR4 stock transmission as 1st gear is weaker. but I had the dragging issue when shifting at high RPM then switched to the rigid 4 puck and the issue was solved and used the GVR4 transmission more than 6 years without any problem.

 

[a91eagletalon]

So is the 4 puck more or less aggressive then the 6 puck

 

[DSMPT]

Logically the 4 puck is more aggressive than the 6 puck.

 

[a91eagletalon]

Logically the 4 puck is more aggressive than the 6 puck.

What is the mileage expected from a 4 puck

 

[bastarddsm]

For me they last about as long as a transmission lasts. It depends. If your launching it on slicks a lot they don't last long. If your just casually street driving they can last a really long time.

 

[a91eagletalon]

I was.running a south bend ssx presser plate what would that compare in cluch size to in act

 

[dexterholland04]

I'd stray away from single clutches if you're going to try to make 600. After making the switch to a QM Twin years ago, I would never go back to the headaches of a heavy pressure plated single. Twins are totally daily-drivable, have a stock-like pedal feel, you just have to ride them out a little bit (just like any un-spring hub disk).

 

[bastarddsm]

I think it's to each his own. I hated mine. Once I had my act2900 dialed in, it shifted nicer than the QM I have. Its was 1000x nicer to street drive. The light pedal pressure of the QM was nice though.

I have the gear drive QM, and the splines are about wore out on it. It saw a decent amount of street miles. Sprung discs don't do that. If someone could make a decent sprung hub twin for us it would be awesome.

Cusco makes one I think we could use. Is has a single center hub, and the discs go on it kind of like a motorcycle clutch. That would be the tits. but it's $$$$$.

Also remember guys went 8's and 9's on a 3200 and street disc back in the day.

 

[19gsx91]

I think it's to each his own. I hated mine. Once I had my act2900 dialed in, it shifted nicer than the QM I have. Its was 1000x nicer to street drive. The light pedal pressure of the QM was nice though.

Hey Bastarddsm, I think I remember reading somewhere that you have a way to lighten up the pedal pressure on an ACT 2600/2900? I can't remember exactly.

 

[sonicselli]

Hey man I just recently purchased and installed the 3200 with a streetlite flywheel, absolutely had problems with disengagement but thats normal. I ended up making the correct adjustments and nailed the disengagement point..... so I thought when I had the clutch pressed in there was a screeching/grinding noise coming from the bellhousing area.. notttt cool man! Long story short I had no happy medium either I was grinding or not disengaging. I replaced and welded the clutch pedal assembly, replaced master, slave,fork, pivot ball, TOB and put in steel braid. Ended up pulling the Trans only to find that the PP diaphragm fingers were pushing into the disc springs. Very odd sent it into ACT and had it inspected, it checked out so that left me clueless. Regardless ACT's amazing customer support is sending me a new disc and I will most likely receive it tomorrow and install. Hopefully with better results this time.

 

[sonicselli]

I'd stray away from single clutches if you're going to try to make 600. After making the switch to a QM Twin years ago, I would never go back to the headaches of a heavy pressure plated single. Twins are totally daily-drivable, have a stock-like pedal feel, you just have to ride them out a little bit (just like any un-spring hub disk).

Hey honestly can't say anything really other than what I've been told. I have had no experience with Twin Discs but when I spoke with ACT they told me to absolutely not go with a twin disc if I was going to street drive at all. Wears much quicker with street driving, vibrations while driving cause excessive wear... So I'm just asking you really have had no problems with driving casual? feel like I want one!

 

[a91eagletalon]

I ended getting a great deal on a spec stage 3+ think I will try and run that for awhile just to get the car up and going again and dig deeper in to this whole clutch thing and relly pick one that will work for me I am interested in that triple disk setup I might look more into that possibly

 

[dexterholland04]

Hey honestly can't say anything really other than what I've been told. I have had no experience with Twin Discs but when I spoke with ACT they told me to absolutely not go with a twin disc if I was going to street drive at all. Wears much quicker with street driving, vibrations while driving cause excessive wear... So I'm just asking you really have had no problems with driving casual? feel like I want one!

I got used to it. It's just like driving any other un-sprung single. Give it a few more R's and ride it out a little more....that's about it.

 

[Archer Fabrications]

Any thought to south bend? Heres my experience

I drove my car for 13,000 miles on an act2600 pressure plate, with various turbo setups at above 26psi on 35r sized pte turbo (6152R), of that 13k miles i probably got 5k miles out of my stock transmission on a solid 6puck before i broke the center diff and 3rd 4th slider ring rollng into a 3rd gear pull and previously a couple launches.

The solid disks chatter the drivetrain a lot and shock it more then the coushin of springs. After i got the trans rebuilt to a shep stage 3, still on the same act2600 pressure plate and flywheel but with a new sprung 6puck disk, and has lasted me the rest of the 8,000 miles until my magnus oil filter backed off and ran my motor dry.

Ran best 11.1 @132 with 1.8 60's and 38psi on hx40, then Switched to the 6466 in a twin scroll t4 and ran 37psi on that, never dynoed the car but it had to be above what your goal is with that boost on a turbo that size. no problems, no signs of slipping car felt solid on pulls on the highway and grabbed hard on launches, and the pressure plate and flywheel were even a little glazed when i swapped disks, and still has been good for all that boost.

The 2600 is a stout bi***. However I'm looking at the south bend SSX with a full ceramic disk now, the south bend is raited for a ton of tq and i hear the pedal feel is close to stock. I could probably benefit from a twin, but honestly i hear about people going through transmissions way more often with a twin then with a heavy single. If my motor didn't get destroyed and torn down I'd still be on the Act2600 with a sprung disk for probably another 10k miles