88 TSI CONQUEST 4G63 swap

[socjdqcer]

Im getting ready to start my 4G63 and auto to 5speed build

When I finally have enough posts ill put this in the build section

This all started about a year ago when my brother bought a 88 TSI with a blown head gasket for $700. He bought it (not knowing anything about these cars) thinking it would be a quick fix. The plus side to the purchase was that the body of the car( except the faded clear coat and the paint coming off of the wing ) and interior were in MINT CONDITION! There is not a speck of rust anywhere and the interior is all original and looks like it just came off of the show room.

Well after he Failed miserably, I helped him replace the whole engine. The car runs fine, I drove it all weekend in fact!

Well on day my brother couldn't get it running and got sick of is just sitting so he GAVE it to me for FREE! After about 30 minutes of working on it I found out he had 2 spark plug wires crossed and since then it has ran great. He finally asked me how the car was going so i did the noble thing and told him the engine was shot! ( I didn't want him taking it back!)

Well here it is, I picked up the 4G63 motor for a great price. All i have to do now is get the Tranny. Im going to go with just a D50 trans for now, because My buddy has a D50 just sitting in his back yard so I'm getting it for next to nothing. The starquest is also a Auto so I'm going to take the challenge of turning it into a 5 speed.

Well Wish me luck! THE BUILD BEGINS!
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this is everything that i took off of the 4G, ill figure out where it goes later

 

[9!'clipseDOHC]

Awesome! Good luck with your swap. I'm a huge fan of the Starquests (Starions and Conquests)!

 

[90tsiawdturbo]

My dads buddy worked at a chrysler dealership when 1g's and the conquest came out....he said they were both very fun cars to drive but stock for stock the conquest was way faster (I'm sure he was talking about top end ) any ways he said that he had it goin almost 160Mph

great luck on the build and I love to see a build thread....beautiful clean car

 

[socjdqcer]

yeah, but the only problem with the conquest 2.6 is that its throttle body injected and the internals are cast not forged. so when it comes to modding they are not very friendly. they cant handle any boost like the DOHC 4G

 

[agentorange313]

Can you use the stock DSM trannys? or do you have to swap over to a maybe mazda or GM/ford tranny?

 

[Tre3zy]

damn that starquest is clean... nice find... and good luck with the swap....

 

[9!'clipseDOHC]

Can you use the stock DSM trannys? or do you have to swap over to a maybe mazda or GM/ford tranny?

It's RWD so most people use GM transmissions.

 

[socjdqcer]

Actually No one uses Gm trannys they all use the 2 supra trannys.

well The conquest is a wide block and a 4g63 is a narrow block. so the stock starquest tranny wont bolt up. The only tranny that bolts right up is the tranny out of a D50 or Mighty Max. the only problem is they cant handle tons of power. so there is a guy who makes special bell housings for the 2 supra trannys. thats proboly the best route. The same guy is also working on making a Bell housing for the famous T5 tranny. So right now im using a D50 tranny(because i have one just laying around) and when the T5 bell houseing is done ill switch to that! its going to be fun!

 

[Ryan4dc]

Using the gm trans, they go with a 350 auto. I used the km132 trans in a mightymax. Would be fun with a 6 speed manual though.

 

[Dhan]

Welcome to the site! Hopefully you won't receive the same treatment that a certain Avenger 420A owner did.

Really interested to see where this build goes. Good luck.

 

[xxKo0paxX]

Great find
I love how that motor had so much torque,turbo, RWD and you can fit some nice meaty tires on the rear

My bro-in-law had a white conquest tsi he did an auto to 5 speed stock as well,so ill ask how hard it was but good call on the 4g63 swap and keeping it a DSM . The stock ones are expensive to convert to MPI. There was a guy i met before that had a 2jz swap in it and that was a beast... A good exterior mod BTW is removing that tint rear tail light cover that the lights have on the rear,makes it stand it a bit more and looks cleaner.

 

[bNasty]

I super like this thread. My next build will be a conquest or a starion

 

[dsm-onster]

yeah, but the only problem with the conquest 2.6 is that its throttle body injected and the internals are cast not forged. so when it comes to modding they are not very friendly. they cant handle any boost like the DOHC 4G

4g63 internals are all cast as well. But yes, the 4g63 does see m to take a beating better.

 

[2gmummy]

Idk anything about these cars i almost got one wheni was looking for my first car, the ad said turbo and fast haha! So what motor do they have originally and do they come boosted?

 

[xxKo0paxX]

2.6 L G54B engine. with TD05-12A Mitsubishi turbocharger

I dont know the HP/TQ numbers. They were offered as a Chrysler Conquest TSI model or Mistubish ESIR due to that joint venture. The body lines on these cars are just sex....just hate that they did not come with DOHC or MPI already....only 2 injectors but all in all its a REALLY fun car to drive and hey you can even drift and do donuts I want one now.....

 

[constant_proj21]

Sweet, I have always wanted to do a 2.4l wideblock in a starion....seems like a good time. Just not light enough for me though :/ oh well, good luck with the build!

 

[9!'clipseDOHC]

Actually No one uses Gm trannys they all use the 2 supra trannys.

Well you should tell this nobody featured in Turbo and Hi-Tech performance because he is using a GM TH400 tansmission.

And here is Buschur's RWD 4G63 Conquest (which ran a best of 8.61 @ 158 MPH) with a GM powerglide transmission. He's a nobody for sure.

Here is the Bushur Racing adapter to use a GM transmission on a 4G63.

There are several different transmissions options with RWD 4G63's. The GM powerglide is just one. Here is a great article on transmission options for a RWD 4G63 swap: :: Project Zero G :: - Transmissions.

Good luck on your build. Hope this helps!

 

[dsm-onster]

Also, a borg t56 from a gm chebby camaro is pretty much the same as a 2jz supra, correct?

 

[highlandgst]

I know a guy tha has the stock engine in his and he beefed itu p . IT is quick as can be I think if I remember they came out of the factory with like 280 hp at stock psi . I loved this car I only got to drive one .. wish I had bought it now

 

[sexystover]

awesome project cant wait to see it finished

 

[socjdqcer]

Well you should tell this nobody featured in Turbo and Hi-Tech performance because he is using a GM TH400 tansmission.

And here is Buschur's RWD 4G63 Conquest (which ran a best of 8.61 @ 158 MPH) with a GM powerglide transmission. He's a nobody for sure.

Here is the Bushur Racing adapter to use a GM transmission on a 4G63.

There are several different transmissions options with RWD 4G63's. The GM powerglide is just one. Here is a great article on transmission options for a RWD 4G63 swap: :: Project Zero G :: - Transmissions.

Good luck on your build. Hope this helps!

thanks man everything is going great, and i wasnt being litteral about the GM tranny! Congrats on finding the only 2 people that did 4g63 builds and used GM trannys . The thing is now with the adaptor plates for supra trannys, NO ONE uses a GM anymore, its kind of old news, you Feel me . and project zero g is an amazing site. i love it!

I know a guy tha has the stock engine in his and he beefed itu p . IT is quick as can be I think if I remember they came out of the factory with like 280 hp at stock psi . I loved this car I only got to drive one .. wish I had bought it now

haha I wish they had that much HP. It depends on what model they are. It could have anywhere from 150 to 197 horsepower depending on whether it is intercooled and has the 8 valve or 12 valve head. My TSI had 197. btw this car handles AMAZING! love drifting corners!

 

[gvr4550]

thanks man everything is going great, and i wasnt being litteral about the GM tranny! Congrats on finding the only 2 people that did 4g63 builds and used GM trannys . The thing is now with the adaptor plates for supra trannys, NO ONE uses a GM anymore, its kind of old news, you Feel me . and project zero g is an amazing site. i love it!



haha I wish they had that much HP. It depends on what model they are. It could have anywhere from 150 to 197 horsepower depending on whether it is intercooled and has the 8 valve or 12 valve head. My TSI had 197. btw this car handles AMAZING! love drifting corners!

awesome cars i had one 3 of my brothers had one and dad had one
gotta love the tq
86 and 87 widebody intercooled were rated at 176hp 223tq in 88 and 89 they redid the ecu and a little more boost 10psi hp went up to 188hp 234tq
id love to have another

 

[2gmummy]

i was looking for a drift car..i was looking more 240sx but this could be interesting. I love how they look and its kind of dsm pride plus i found two by my both in great shape for like 2k each...hmmmm...

 

[socjdqcer]

i was looking for a drift car..i was looking more 240sx but this could be interesting. I love how they look and its kind of dsm pride plus i found two by my both in great shape for like 2k each...hmmmm...

yeah man pick one of those up. Hopefully they arent rust buckets( most of them are) they are really sweet cars, seriously everywhere i go I have people ask me "WHAT IS THAT, IS THAT A PORSCHE!?" its awesome

4g63 internals are all cast as well. But yes, the 4g63 does see m to take a beating better.

WOW i heard the turboed ones gsx/tsi were forged? I know they can handle up to 400hp and 25 psi! I just assumed that meant forged! I didnt know cast can handle so much boost

 

[JSand96TSi]

Gl with this build man looks like its gonna be a sick ride