6 or 7 bolt

[clizz3]

What are the other differences besides the bolts on the flywheel, on seeing whether or not if have a 6 or 7 bolt?
The car is just 93 gs

 

[Mischif]

Yours is a 7 bolt if its the original engine. Late 92 -94 were 7 bolts.

 

[pauleyman]

Are you asking for specific mechanical differences? If so search. If you're asking functional there is no difference. Same HP etc.

 

[sk8rkid]

just bought a 1991 eagle talon it is a original motor and then the transmission was replaced i have no papers to tell part numbers but the guys says the transmission is a 7 bolt, i know the flywheel and starter will not line up because the bellhousing is to big, i have been told several different thing by different people i talked to a local transmission shop and they said id need a bigger flywheel and id be fine, will i need to get a clutch kit to support the bigger flywheel. i have never done this kind of swap so i am clueless. please can anyone tell me what ill hvae to do to figure all of this out

 

[clizz3]

Yours is a 7 bolt if its the original engine. Late 92 -94 were 7 bolts.

How can I tell if its original?

 

[sk8rkid]

2.0 ltr
5 speed manual
new transmission
new clutch
new throttle body
new timing belt and pullies
starter won't line up with flywheel (will push start).... assume it needs larger flywheel due to new transmission WTF

i have been told several different things now and i am beyond confused.

 

[bryanwheat]

just bought a 1991 eagle talon it is a original motor and then the transmission was replaced i have no papers to tell part numbers but the guys says the transmission is a 7 bolt, i know the flywheel and starter will not line up because the bellhousing is to big, i have been told several different thing by different people i talked to a local transmission shop and they said id need a bigger flywheel and id be fine, will i need to get a clutch kit to support the bigger flywheel. i have never done this kind of swap so i am clueless. please can anyone tell me what ill hvae to do to figure all of this out

There is no such thing as a 7 bolt transmission. They are the same transmission regardless of whether it is a 6 bolt or 7 bolt. You just have to make sure that you have the right flywheel. If you have a non turbo fwd transmission than you need a non turbo fwd flywheel and clutch. If you have a turbo fwd transmission than you need a fwd turbo flywheel and clutch. The flywheel will have either 6 or 7 bolt holes depending on what engine you have. You also have to have the correct starter plate for the transmission so that the starter is lined up properly.

 

[clizz3]

Is there anyway I can tell to see if its a 6 or 7 without taking everything apart to look at the flywheel?

 

[sk8rkid]

if you have the part number you could look it up

 

[bryanwheat]

Is there anyway I can tell to see if its a 6 or 7 without taking everything apart to look at the flywheel?

Yes it is very easy to tell, look at the oil pan under the oil pump. This has been covered so many times that it should be universally known by now.

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[DSM1G90]

Look at the front of the motor. If the oil pan's front lip goes straight across behind the crank pulley, it's a 6 bolt. If the oil pan's front lip has a downward curve and the pan has a fold crease in the front of it, it's a 7 bolt.

This change in design was for the front BS belt removal task without taking off the crank sprocket.

(Congrats on Bryanwheat to be made a Wiseman... )

 

[pauleyman]

What model transmission is this? It's stamped on the upper part of the bellhousing.

 

[DSM1G90]

Prob is an F5M22, or F4A22-2(automatic) being a NT vehicle.

Turbos and the 6G72's got the "33's"

 

[pauleyman]

He said it got a new transmission. I'm trying to verify he didn't put a turbo tranny in it which would necessitate all the turbo flywheel, clutch etc

 

[clizz3]

Thanks for your help. I confirmed it was a 7 bolt.

 

[pauleyman]

Well, I just figured out the question in the middle of the thread is not from the OP. New poster go make your own thread.

 

[bryanwheat]

Well, I just figured out the question in the middle of the thread is not from the OP. New poster go make your own thread.

I noticed that too, these threads get pretty confusing sometimes when you have 2 people asking 2 different questions in the same thread.

 

[clizz3]

I have Another question regarding the head. Can a 6 or 7 bolt head fit on my 7? I would search myself but I'm working at the moment. Thanks for your replies.

 

[talon2gbuyer]

A 6 bolt head will fit on a 7 bolt block, but your going to have to tap the head bolts to fit. The 7 bolt uses a 11mm shank and I think the 6 bolt uses a 12mm shank. Lots of people have done the 6 bolt head on 7 bolt block combo