6 bolt swap 1g starter plate

[nh91gsx]

Can anyone tell me why it is said that you need to use the 2g starter plate while doing a 6 bolt swap in a 2G? I am in the middle of a swap and of all the parts I have the 2G starter plate is one that I cannot find. I still have my 1G starter plate and I matched it up with the 2G transmission and they fit right up other than 1 bolt hole (don't think this matters). It looks to me like it should work but I don't know if I am missing something as most 6 bolt swap articles say you need to put on the 2G starter plate and cut it (they just don't explain why the 1G starter plate doesn't work). Anyway, can anyone tell me if they have run into this before or why the 2G starter plate is necessary? Thanks.

 

[blcknspo0ln]

While I've never fudged with a 1G starter plate, I wonder if it has to do with the position of the starter on the transmission. Check to see if the bolt holes are different there. Besides, where is your 2g starter plate if you already have a 2g?

 

[nh91gsx]

I bought the 2G as a parts car so it just had a bunch of random parts in the trunk. I was never able to find the 2G starter plate. The bolt holes along with the shape of the starter matches up perfectly with the 2G tranny. Actually everything matches up perfectly except for one little part where the starter plate ends right before the bolt hole in the tranny (doesn't impede anything though). My thoughts are, if the starter plate fits the motor, the motor fits the tranny, and I don't see where anything could be caught up that it should work. I could be wrong though, I think I might hate myself a little if I try it just to find out I need to pull the motor back out because something doesn't fit right. Thanks for the reply.

 

[blcknspo0ln]

Another thought is the thickness of the starterplate. If the 1G and 2G are different, it could dramatically affect TOB/clutch travel. Give it a quick search again, I'm sure it has been explained somewhere.

 

[turbosax2]

You can pick up a new starter plate new if the 1g doesn't work. They're pretty cheap.

2g starter plate - MD167356 - $12.58
JNZ Tuning Online- OEM Mitsubishi Parts

 

[nh91gsx]

Thickness was not something I had thought of but that's a good point. I'll try to do some more research to see what I can find. Thanks for the help.

 

[turbosax2]

Transmission Videos


Check out the first video. According to Jack, you match the starter plate to the bellhousing (transmission), not the block.

By they way, the part number I gave you before is for a 2g awd.
2g awd - MD167356
2g fwd - MD194962

 

[blcknspo0ln]

Transmission Videos


Check out the first video. According to Jack, you match the starter plate to the bellhousing (transmission), not the block.

By they way, the part number I gave you before is for a 2g awd.
2g awd - MD167356
2g fwd - MD194962

well that makes a lot of sense, seeing how the fwd and awd flywheels are different diameters.

 

[turbosax2]

Oddly enough, I can now give a first-hand answer to this question.

My brother bought his 2g GST with a 1g 7-bolt engine in it. Ever since he bought it, it would always squeal for a second or two when you start the car. Originally we thought it was the accessory belts, but we tensioned them and the problem remained. Then we suspected the starter so we got a new one from Autzone - the problem remained. Then a few people told us the timing belt was too tight so we redid the timing belt this weekend - the problem remained. Then we took another look at things and narrowed it down to the starter. It turns out that a 1g starter plate was used for the swap (or at least that's the only answer we came up with). The starter bolt hole circled in green appears to have been elongated to match the hole in the transmission. On the starter plate, the top of the hole the starter goes through was smashed inwards towards the transmission. The starter had been forced into place, bending the plate in as a result. We ended up cutting the portion of the starter plate out that's circled in red. We could have trimmed the plate at the top but very little to none of the plate would be left after grinding it to fit, so we just decided to cut the portion off. It fixed the problem temporarily until we get around to pulling the transmission to put a 2g starter plate in.

Moral of the story: use a 2g starter plate for a 6 bolt swap into a 2g.

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[snowborder714]

And here are the pictures of my starter plate. I believe these were both taken after we bent it back, but before we cut it. In the 2nd picture, the gray line on the top curved part of the starter plate I believe is where the bend was. It was bent pretty much at a right angle into the bellhousing

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