4g63 Beehive Valve Kit [Merged 10-8]

[rst95eclipse]

I've been looking for a beehive kit, and until now a dual setup was the only way to go. Not anymore. I'd like to know more information about it before I go rushing to buy a kit.

http://www.kigglyracing.com/parts/

 

[marck_c]

Has anyone tried using these on 4G63 Engines? They are supposed to extend the rpm limits of the valvetrain buy roughly 1000 extra rpm.

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http://www.racingsprings.com/beehivesprings.htm

 

[marck_c]

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Has anyone tried using these on 4G63 Engines? They are supposed to extend the rpm limits of the valvetrain buy roughly 1000 extra rpm.

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http://www.racingsprings.com/beehivesprings.htm

 

[DSM90AWD]

Has anyone tried using these on 4G63 Engines? They are supposed to extend the rpm limits of the valvetrain buy roughly 1000 extra rpm

Magnus Motorsports uses custom "Beehive" springs in their race engines (Marco / Brent Rau) as well as Kiggly Racing

 

[inneedof]

Magnus Motorsports uses custom "Beehive" springs in their race engines (Marco / Brent Rau) as well as Kiggly Racing

the kiggly/magnus are very nice springs, there are solid up to 11000.

 

[JWoodley]

+1 for kiggly!

 

[marck_c]

Is it necessary to replace any other hardware in the valvetrain to support continuous 10000+rpm? Such as the lifters, rockers. How do you prevent the lifters from going solid?

 

[inneedof]

On my new setup i have 3g lifters and the beehive springs, and it is just fine. My cams are not that aggressive yet, we will see what happens when i go to a crazy aggressive cam.

 

[absolute_DSM]

There was a big discussion about this a while ago.

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/showthread.php?t=257760&highlight=beehive

 

[Purevil]

Evo 8's use beehive springs and the retainers are super light. Plus they drop right into a dsm.

 

[Siral3x]

Can anybody else confirm that the evo 8 has the beehive springs?? The redline is set at 7k
I know that for sure. Mitsu is to cheap to put those springs in....but did they really?

 

[Siral3x]

I have heard of ferrea making dual TI valve springs and retainers for the evo8-9 that look somewhat like beehive springs and run for over $550+/kit.....but the stock EVO8 should be steel springs...

 

[Purevil]

Can anybody else confirm that the evo 8 has the beehive springs?? The redline is set at 7k
I know that for sure. Mitsu is to cheap to put those springs in....but did they really?

Yes, it is confirmed...

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Also does anyone know what Evo retainers are made from??? I've played with titanium retainers (crower, bc and revolver) and these evo ones are much, much lighter... All 16 tip the scales at a whopping 2.2 ounces. Also the springs themselves are each 0.6 ounces lighter than dsm. The sodium filled exhaust valve (also confirmed ) is 0.3 ounces lighter than a dsm exhaust valve and the intake is the same between evos and dsms.

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The weight pulled from the valvetrain allows it to operate more efficiently and maintain good valve control at higher rpm levels. Remember, the valvespring has to overcome not only the inertia of the moving valve, but also its own weight and inertia.

 

[leoboy]

Any of you guys hear about the new valve springs by Comp Cams? Bee Hive springs. They are suppose be better than dual springs. Check this link out and tell me what you think. You think that we could get some valve springs like that?

http://www.performanceproductreview.com/Base/Files/PDF/Articles/PPR2006/Beehive.pdf

Wouldnt we just have to know the dimensions of our valve springs and match em up? Does anyone have those dimensions?

 

[spooled_u_1st]

Actually there are already stock bee hive valve springs in the evo. Which is a 4g63 engine and uses the same springs. I'm pretty sure there are already aftermarket bee hive's out.

 

[GVR4592]

Kiggly Racing - kigglyracing.com

 

[spooled_u_1st]

Yep, that right Kiggly makes them.

 

[DSMunknown]

The sodium filled exhaust valve (also confirmed ) is 0.3 ounces lighter than a dsm exhaust valve and the intake is the same between evos and dsms.

I was under the impression that the Evo 8 valves (both intake and exhaust) were nitrate-filled.

 

[GVR4592]

Sodium, sodium nitrate, natrium, I think they're all similar or they achieve the same goal. I don't know anything about chemistry, so I could be wrong.

 

[igopoopy]

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Beehive Valve Spring in Action

 

[Defiant]

Holy crap, nice camera. And a good demonstration of a valve seat having the living shit worked out of it. I wonder what normal springs are doing under the same conditions.

 

[nytescion]

clean oil

 

[a_scobel]

Nice. We need more videos like this. I'd like to see exactly what happens inside of an engine.

 

[crimsondragon]

I've never seen oil just burst into an almost mist like that. Pretty neat.

 

[nfernotalon]

That thing does move like a slinky, i wonder if that affects performance.

 

[wishihadatalon]

YouTube - Valve Float