Resolved 2G Eclipse GST starter question

[sadc]

So there's 2 wires that are connected to the starter, correct? One is the + wire that comes straight from the batt. The another, that comes off one of the wire loom's in the engine. It's more like a clip.

To my understanding, that is the "starter" wire. Correct? Then also there is a ground that is not connected to the starter but to the bell housing, with a bolt, which grounds the starter, correct?

So my question is, Should the + side that is connected to the starter, from the battery always be 12+ volts no matter if your trying to start the car or not? And also if you have everything setup correctly, then you should be able to use the starter it self as a ground right?

 

[tscook3]

Not a starter expert but I had to change starters more than prob like six times no exaggeration to get my car back together a couple months ago.

If I remember right, there are the two terminals on the starter. The positive wire is in a loom with another wire with a black connector that clips on to a little metal tap. The other terminal is just for a wire to ground it out. Not sure exactly what the little clip does but shouldn't matter as long as you have everything hooked up right you shouldn't have any problems starting the car.

And it would be possible to use the starter as a ground but don't see why you would really need to. I've never seen anyone do it and there are so many other spots to ground from, the starter just seems like a weird one. But you can do anything you want. Good luck to you

 

[Bud92gsx]

The little black clip is for ground, correct..The starte should automatically chassis ground when connected and bolted on..I don't know why you would want to use this as a ground, when the chassis is ground by itself..

So what is your question exactly?

Ohh and there should be 12 volts when not cranking the starter.. It should have a voltage drop when cranking..

 

[sadc]

My question was, what was the black clip. Guess a ground. thanks! and also if the + should always be present.

 

[IEdroStarI]

pretty sure the little black clip is a sending unit... its got a different ground source

 

[Bud92gsx]

The power 12v is the one with the nut on it...I think that's what his question is...

 

[dsmcurse]

The large wire is the 12volt wire directly from the battery. It always has juice. The little wire, single wire with black plastic clip is the signal wire. The other end of it plugs into the main engine harness. Mitsubishi did that part of the wiring kinda weird. The small wire is the signal it goes into the main harness which goes back into the car. When you turn the key over to start, that small wire get 12v to tell the starter to let the juice fly from the bigger 12v wire. When you let off of the key, it makes the starter quit kickin.

It's confusing to look at cause the small wire is loomed with the bigger battery cable. It looks outa place. but if you rip it all apart, take the loom off of everything. you'll see what I mean. The little guy just plugs into the main harness.

Oh and the ground wire, it's from negative battery post to engine via the started bolt and engine its self to chassis. It's just coincidence that from the factory they put the ground wire in the starter bolt hole. All it does is touch engine, it could touch the engine anywhere and it'd be fine.

 

[goodbuds]

this was good info today, even if it is like three years old ....