Wierd timing belt question

[tsitalon03]

Ok so last weekend i got my timing belt/water pump changed....all that good stuff. Next day i got it back i noticed it idled like crap..but the car pulled alittle harder. So a few days later i got the timing adjusted and i lost that little "umph"...so what happened?

 

[AZTECH]

what happened is they didn't account for the exhaust gear movement when setting the timing the first time.

 

[tsitalon03]

so how did that make it feel faster

 

[johnny90]

What adjustment did you do?

 

[tsitalon03]

I took it to a local shop and they adjusted the timing....it was alil off

 

[92awddsm]

I took it to a local shop and they adjusted the timing....it was alil off

How did they adjust timing?

 

[1992awdlaser]

I think what everybody wants to know is if they adjusted cam timing or base timing?

 

[tsitalon03]

I dont know if it was the cam or base timing

 

[92awddsm]

If it was base timing, I wonder if it was done properly. Since you have a 6 bolt swap, I assume you are using a 1g cas?

 

[tsitalon03]

yea i have a 1g cas..but everything runs good, idles good....just lost that lil "umph"

 

[1992awdlaser]

The cas might have been advanced some and that is why you had more power. Call and ask the shop if it was base timing they adjusted.

 

[tsitalon03]

ok i will.......and what if it was the base timing the adjusted

 

[1992awdlaser]

ok i will.......and what if it was the base timing the adjusted

That is what I was explaining. The cas controls the base timing.

 

[tsitalon03]

is there a way i can adjust it myself

 

[1992awdlaser]

All you have to do is set up a timing light and rotate the cas. Check this vfaq out. http://vfaq.com/mods/wayback/BradBauer/misc/tim-l.html

Edit: Here is a better one with pictures. You must ground the timing like mentioned in this one even though it isn't mentioned in the other. Engine Timing

 

[tsitalon03]

ok i called the shop today and they said they adjusted both cam and base timing....they said the cam timing was off a few teeth...so now what

how do i retard the exhaust cam only?