wideband, LC1 or AEM UEGO

[pj91gsx]

Okay guys, I had an LC1 on my last dsm, and i thought it was great. WOT 10.3 and steady on it. I didnt do any tuning or anything, but what i want to know is accuracy. I have one guy telling me the LC1 is inaccurate because you have to calibrate it every 6 months, and another guy telling me that his AEM wideband was innaccurate and thats why he moved to LC1.

The guy with the AEM that moved to LC1, he said it was showing different numbers on the gauge compared to what he logged on the Hondata. He also talked to another guy that used AEM with Hondata and he said AEM wasnt good for tunning either.

However, I have another friend that uses AEM on dsms and he says they are accurate and he would rather use them than LC1.

my mind is tied up like a pretzel

 

[gofer]

There are (3) reasons why I prefer running the AEM UEGO, making it the better choice between it and the LC1.

1. Price.
2. Convenience.
3. Size.

My UEGO doesn't log in dsmlink if I use one of the AEM WB sensor settings, but I can get it to log PERFECT by moving some numbers around.

 

[LiquidX]

Lc1 is more accurate than any other ones out there right now.
The DB gauge is an inch deep as well so it's just as small and the price can be had for $180 which is awesome for a top of the line wideband.

It's easily loggable on link and you can convert to narrow band simulation rift out ofthe box without needing Link or EMS.

 

[talontsi18]

There are (3) reasons why I prefer running the AEM UEGO, making it the better choice between it and the LC1.

1. Price.
2. Convenience.
3. Size.

My UEGO doesn't log in dsmlink if I use one of the AEM WB sensor settings, but I can get it to log PERFECT by moving some numbers around.

What numbers did you have to mess with? I already have a AEM UEGO wideband and I'll be converting to SD with ECMlink in the next few months. I was thinking about buying a different wideband and trying to sell the AEM, but if the AEM will log properly in link all the better. Did you just use the wiki off of ECMlink? aemwb [ECMTuning - wiki]

 

[gofer]

I guess I should have explained things more in depth, rather than just listing off WHY I chose the AEM WB.

I got the AEM UEGO WB gauge, sensor, & bung for cheaper than anything else I could find, less than $200 shipped. Its convenient because the local AutoZone carries the replacement Bosch o2 sensor for it, that way if it fails I don't have to wait for a replacement. No calibration is required and installation is a breeze, the wiring is very straight forward. As for size, I didn't mean the gauge itself, I meant the AEM unit itself has less luggage that comes with it. The LC-1 has a auxilary box that seemed to me like a P.I.T.A to hide and the wiring seemed like a mess to me.

- LC-1 WB Install
- AEM UEGO Install​

If you weren't aware that you could replace the AEM UEGO o2 sensor with a Bosch over the counter one heres the part number. Bosch LSU 4.2 17018

What numbers did you have to mess with? I already have a AEM UEGO wideband and I'll be converting to SD with ECMlink in the next few months. I was thinking about buying a different wideband and trying to sell the AEM, but if the AEM will log properly in link all the better. Did you just use the wiki off of ECMlink? aemwb [ECMTuning - wiki]

A bit off topic but YES, thats correct. I used LinearWB and moved MinLamba around a bit, now it logs perfect with the displayed AFR.

 

[LiquidX]

Nice ninja edit on the weight --> wait

The controller isn't that hard to hide at all. I put mine next to the power steering reservoir. But opinions are just what it's called. I honestly just wonder how accurate the unit is after time passes on as at least per Innovate you need to re calibrate the sensor by exposing to free air.

Is that possible with the UEGO and if not I wonder why one needs re calibrated while the other doesn't

 

[DSM nOOb]

I'd choose the LC-1 simply on the fact is it is more accurate and it is easy to use with DSMlink.

And you can get it for under 200

 

[gofer]

Nice ninja edit on the weight --> wait

You are correct Scott, my opinions my opinion, I went the DSM ducktape (easier to operate, faster to install, less money spent) way of shopping for a WB. The LC-1 is a good sensor, a friend runs one on his 1g and the damn things spot on logging in dsmlink.

Both are good sensors, its basically up to you which one you prefer.

 

[Imback]

aemwb [ECMTuning - wiki]

That's what ecmlink thinks of the AEM. I personally tried using it under Linwideband and defining my own voltage but it was never spot on.

As for the LC-1 it's already supported and doesn't need to played with. I hooked it up and first try it logged perfectly and i have not messed with it since. As for the wiring it may seem a little complicated if you don't know what your doing but i was able to install everything in 30 minutes my first time doing it and that was quite some time ago. As for the lc-1 calibration it takes less then a minute and i like the fact that i can recalibrate it every so often so i know i'm getting a good reading. As for the lc-1 sensor you can buy them at auto zone as well. The part # is 17014 it came on 2000 and up jetta's and golfs.

 

[907gs-t]

Lc1 is more accurate than any other ones out there right now.
The DB gauge is an inch deep as well so it's just as small and the price can be had for $180 which is awesome for a top of the line wideband.

It's easily loggable on link and you can convert to narrow band simulation rift out ofthe box without needing Link or EMS.

Is the way to go no doubt imo & that's what I run.

 

[FIBA M - EC17PSE]

I have my controller on the A/C pipe under the car its out of the way and stays clean and where its ment to stay! I'm no expert when it come to tuning (not yet anyway) so when I was choosing mine I was looking at the aem for ease! But why did I go for the most demanding wideband??? Well its because its accurate and you can connect it to link! Plus its great on the MTS system just like defi! And there gauges are super cool and thin! Yes it may have to be calibrated at least every 6 months but its only because innovate want your car to run at its best! And aem just want a fast install for people who cannot be bothered! (In my eyes anyway) I know I will get moaned at for that part ha ha. I love my db gauge and innovate products you will be very happy with them! Just takes a bit more work to wire it all in! Unlike the aem unit!