Why is these happening to me - 3 turbos

[danieltovar]

Well I have 6 bolt built with shaft elimination kit. Ported stage 3 and 2mm size valves. When I put it in my car after 1 month in half my car started smoking little sometimes smoke then when everything started I was connecting my knock sensor back cause was not making connection bad wires. Then I turn the car back it started to smoke and from there it smoke bad. The turbo had zero play and took it of and order new one from Austin, when I put it right away smoke crazy. Then I took it off send it for inspection and put another one buy from dsm local and change my fed line to the head and when I started the car it smoke right a way alot. Well what the f I have the stock oil drain no kinks and fed from the head why. tire of these car, what's next I have an new build motor and turbos leaking from the oil seals. Another thing I did was put the bov to little hard. Help please before I throw the towel on dsm cars

 

[donniekak]

Hard to understand. But, you may have some destroyed pistons from running without a knock sensor.

 

[danieltovar]

Hard to understand. But, you may have some destroyed pistons from running without a knock sensor.

Well I have not run the car hard and there is no sine of bad piston or bad sound how to identified these

 

[New_kid]

Well I have not run the car hard and there is no sine of bad piston or bad sound how to identified these

Take off the valve cover, take off the head, there they are. Before posting you should try using the Search button.

 

[RadDsm]

It's smoking at idle?

Sounds more like you have worn valve stem seals than blown turbos...

 

[BLINKY619]

maybe theres enough oil residue in the downpipe?

 

[danieltovar]

When I took the manifold and turbo I look inside and the exhaust runners are clean and the valves inside are really dry, but every time I take the compressor and turbine housing they are filled with oil. All turbos know do these, someone told me I have hight pressure on the inlet what is that or what causes that

Well the motor is fresh build know maybe there is oil on the piping but it smokes alot and its always that I see oil coming from the turbos seals.
Thanks for your opinions guys keep it coming thanks.

 

[obsidian]

Sounds like he may be getting too much oil pressure to the turbo.

He did do the balance shaft delete.

Research porting the oil filter housing.

 

[Funfettie]

I second too much oil pressure. pushing oil past the turbo seals, or blew them out entirely. port the OFH, and rebuild the CHRA of the turbo.

i would highly recommend installing an oil pressure gauge at the turbo to see what pressures it getting, and make sure its within the turbos specs. I did this to 2 PTE turbos, and i finally got it right after doing all this for my evo9 EF4 setup.

 

[danieltovar]

Sounds like he may be getting too much oil pressure to the turbo.

He did do the balance shaft delete.

Research porting the oil filter housing.

Yes I did the shaft delete, well these started after a month of driving so if I put new turbo it should not through a lot of oil at the first start wright away that's my confusion, maybe the inlet hight pressure that somebody told me, or there is something in the oil ports that can cause that. I took all the main things new oem oil drain extreme psi oil fed from the head, change new turbos and other ones working what is there that might be missing.
O and these turbos are all tdo5

 

[bastarddsm]

Sounds like you need to find someone local to take a look at it. Your typing is too hard to understand to get a clear idea of what is happening. It also seems like you don't have a clear understanding of what is really happening. Diagnosis is pretty hard some times, and it's even harder without being at the car.

 

[jpmxrider489]

High oil pressure because of the bse?

 

[MHuddy1213]

you need an oil restrictor on the oil feed line your blowing oil past the seals in the turbo you need a 0.7" restrictor if im not mistaken i cant fully rember the exact size someone verify please. BSe increases oil pressure as stated and without a restrictor youll always have this problem. to ensure that its nothing else wrong do compression test.

 

[danieltovar]

Yes a delete the shaft, also that's was my thinking an oil restrictor, but it should be lower getting fed from the head, I will try to post at local for help but hopefully somebody replies its hard for somebody to help on the NorCal sf Bay Area . Well for know I will search about to much inlet hight pressure cause yes I an really confuse and, tired of these car.

 

[H@xtGSX]

Fed from the head or not, with the balance shafts removed, there's a lot more oil pressure. I tend to think you're drain line isn't working right or it is just too small. Did you goop it up with RTV when you attached the drain to the pan and turbo drain? If it isn't draining fast enough, the pressure builds inside the turbo, and eventually smoke will appear. Since it's 3 times now... What size drain line do you have? If it's too small, you can buy a 100 turbos and they'll all smoke, because the oil can't get out of the CHRA, pressure builds, and poof! Smoke.

... and if this bothers you owning a DSM, you may be in for a rough ride. You can either suck it up and become your own mechanic, pay out the ass for someone else to do the work you WILL need done frequently, or sell it. Those are the options.

 

[danieltovar]

you need an oil restrictor on the oil feed line your blowing oil past the seals in the turbo you need a 0.7" restrictor if im not mistaken i cant fully rember the exact size someone verify please. BSe increases oil pressure as stated and without a restrictor youll always have this problem. to ensure that its nothing else wrong do compression test.

Fed from the head or not, with the balance shafts removed, there's a lot more oil pressure. I tend to think you're drain line isn't working right or it is just too small. Did you goop it up with RTV when you attached the drain to the pan and turbo drain? If it isn't draining fast enough, the pressure builds inside the turbo, and eventually smoke will appear. Since it's 3 times now... What size drain line do you have? If it's too small, you can buy a 100 turbos and they'll all smoke, because the oil can't get out of the CHRA, pressure builds, and poof! Smoke.

... and if this bothers you owning a DSM, you may be in for a rough ride. You can either suck it up and become your own mechanic, pay out the ass for someone else to do the work you WILL need done frequently, or sell it. Those are the options.

Ok but it smokes right at the start with diffrent new turbos, I will put the 2g oil drain line cause I see its bigger, then try to find an oil restrictor.

Where can I get an oil restrictor that would work the biggest or small size I can use?

 

[H@xtGSX]

Justin would likely be who I'd ask, because I just bought my feed line from RRE and it has the restrictor built into it. I do know the recommended size is about 1mm for the hole, though I don't know how you'd go about sticking something in your oil feed line to choke it down to that size. The RRE line is ~$50 though, and I have re-used it many times now... it's worth the money and is a simple, painless fix. I have fed all my turbos from the oil filter housing also... I'd honestly rather have too much than not enough oil. I have welded a turbine shaft to the bearing housing before, and it is a very, very, very bad thing... metal will go into the motor and chew up a lot more than just the turbo. Guess how I know that...

 

[danieltovar]

Justin would likely be who I'd ask, because I just bought my feed line from RRE and it has the restrictor built into it. I do know the recommended size is about 1mm for the hole, though I don't know how you'd go about sticking something in your oil feed line to choke it down to that size. The RRE line is ~$50 though, and I have re-used it many times now... it's worth the money and is a simple, painless fix. I have fed all my turbos from the oil filter housing also... I'd honestly rather have too much than not enough oil. I have welded a turbine shaft to the bearing housing before, and it is a very, very, very bad thing... metal will go into the motor and chew up a lot more than just the turbo. Guess how I know that...

Wow things happend, well thanks for your info I have buy the two set up from extreme psi the housing and and head fed lines, still blowing oil pass the seals at the first turn on right away. Thanks for th RRE one that has an restrictor fed line I will search on it.

 

[danieltovar]

Can I use these one to lower my oil problem as my restrictor I am feeding from the head and first start an pull of oil coming from the o2 and down pipe bolts.

Adapter Fitting M10x1 5 Subaru TF035HM TD04 TD05 Turbo Oil Feed 1 5mm Restrictor | eBay

 

[StephensToySpyder]

Did you plug the oil wholes on the inside of the block where the balnce shafts use to be ? ive seen alot of guys just plug the whole on the oil pump and had oil pressure issues,what i do is pound the stock bearing out of the balance shft whole with a big sockett and turn them 180 degrees and pound them back in.

 

[danieltovar]

Did you plug the oil wholes on the inside of the block where the balnce shafts use to be ? ive seen alot of guys just plug the whole on the oil pump and had oil pressure issues,what i do is pound the stock bearing out of the balance shft whole with a big sockett and turn them 180 degrees and pound them back in.

Don't know it was done by an shop, and its plug there is nothing there. So to you it sounds like an hight oil presure problem.

 

[Mark L]

What made you think it was the turbo's fault? Is it a factory turbo? A car can smoke for lots of different reasons. Is it from oil or coolant?

 

[boost97gst]

post a video.

 

[dsmcurse]

Needs to type a lot better. Make sentences that make sense.

 

[danieltovar]

The motor is fresh build, and when I remove the turbo there is always oil in the compressor side and turbine side, the head runners are dry. The manifold exhaust is dry. The top part of the turbine housing is dry where it meets up with the manifold exhaust. Also I don't have balance shaft, and makes me thing oil pressure is high.

I will try to post an video if I can.

Sorry for my writing but its hard on I phone I press the wrong letters. Well my only option is to try somebody local to help me, and also try to buy all of the t fitting to mount an pressure gauge and see where I am at. I am also going to search for an restrictor.