White Smoke / Car Is Smoking White [Merged 7-9]

[Apeximprt2nr]

Alright guys, well I just finished my 14B install in my 95 GSX. All is well besides some minor oil leaks on the return line and the SS feed line at the filter housing. There was also a VERY minor coolant leak from the front banjo bolt on the turbo. I tightened it a tad and I think i went away. Now the turbo is spooling really late because I think there may be a leak before the turbo.
Now on to the problems.

1. The turbo does not smoke at all besides at WOT sometimes it blows out whiteish grey smoke. I'm trying to think of where it could be burning coolant. It never did this before the turbo install.

2. There was some white smoke the past 2 days at the manifold. I'm thinking its the shitload of PB Blaster that I sprayed all over the car but I'm not sure.

3. There's a smell coming from my engine that I can smell if I pop my hood and it becomes more noticeable when I'm driving and really get on it. It smells like burning plastic sort of, with a mix of burning rubber. The lower heat shield is not on the car because it's a pain to get on and I haven't put it back on because I haven't had time. Nothing is touching anything hot so I 'm confused...The only possible thing is maybe I pout on a new 4 ply exhaust mani. gasket as well as antiseize on most of the bolts and the turbo-mani. bolts.

Any help? Thanks.

 

[eclipertnr90]

I just bought a 97 eclipse GST with a jdm motor, it supposed to have around 50k miles, its a very very clean motor, 14b turbo, dejon racing fmic, dejon intake.. just some background on motor

it looks out of the oil return line, when i bought it the kid said it was the gasket not the one that goes to turbo, when I start it and let it idle the there is no smoke in the exhaust and then when i give it gas white smoke comes out, its not a thick thick smoke or its not blue.. it seems liek when i had the hood poped smoke came up from somewhere possibly the return line gasket?? I also looked underneath and didnt see anything else leaking besides teh oil return line

Im new to alll this so im not too sure what the problem is, if anyone could give me some answers that would be great!!

 

[nuclearr]

Sounds like a bad turbo or head gasket. You need to do a compression test. You alo need take of the inlet pipe on the turbo and check for shaft play. White smoke usually idicated coolant burning.

 

[khartley]

Is there some coolant leaking in your engine bay somewhere? Look for that, could be getting hot and causing the smoke under the hood. Does it smell sweet? Was that 14b rebuilt?

 

[eclipertnr90]

well i just bought the car so i dont know too much about it to be honest! but this will sound prob pretty bad buttt haha theres a water bottle holding the coolant.. I have no idea to be honest if the turbo was rebuilt I know it has a 6 bolt swap, i dont know if it is the turbo or not because it still has plenty of power! I can check tomorrow but where would the coolant be leaking from?

 

[eclipertnr90]

and it leaked underneath hood only once.. then it stopped so im thinking maybe it was something maybe on the engine? and do you have any idea why it might be smoke coming from exhaust?

 

[khartley]

It could be leaking coolant from just about anywhere, just check under the hood with the engine running for any drips or puddles anywhere, if it is leaking you should be able to find it. Could be you just got some oil or something on the exhaust manifold, and it burned off.

As for the smoke out the exhaust, if its white it is either coolant, or it could be indicating a lean condition. I'd imagine if your headgasket was blown you would be feeling it. What boost are you running?

 

[eclipertnr90]

yeah i would think i would be feeling it as well... I asked the kid and he said 12-14psi??

what do you mean a lean condition? the motor running to lean? thanks for helping me out

 

[1SickAuto]

is it cold outside where u live . can u smell a sweet smell or an burning oil smell. this will help try to identify your problem. white smoke SOMETIMES mean coolant leak, but i had white smoke coming out of my old car cause my dumb@$$ put to small of a oil return line on and it was basically dumping oil in my exhaust blowing white smoke.

 

[eclipertnr90]

hahah.. yea its freezzinggg i live in NH! hahah.. but the oil return line gasket needs to be replaced do yout hink that could be it! I hope it isnt a head gasket! tooooo much moneyyy! haha could the oil be going into exhaust from oil return line? I know the gasket is blown its leaking oil from there to be honest i dont remember it smelling like anything? but i can start it up tomorrow and tell you if it smells or not

 

[Redwan]

Is there some coolant leaking in your engine bay somewhere? Look for that, could be getting hot and causing the smoke under the hood. Does it smell sweet? Was that 14b rebuilt?[/QUOTE

i have a same problem..sorry to interupt..could a 14b rebuild cause white smoke too? i swaped a rebuild 14b turbo couple days ago and i was drivin it yesterday and today, i drove about 20 mins today and i saw white smoke out of the exhaust..and checked under the hood , didn't see anything, then checked under the car and i see the turbo had some oil on the bottom it..so the turbo is leakin, also saw some coolant on the floor..could the rebuild 14b turbo cause a white smoke or i have a bad head gasket??

 

[khartley]

A lean condition is when you don't have enough fuel in your air/fuel mixture. Increasing your air flow can contribute, which you have the FMIC and exhaust. Not running a high enough octane fuel can also contribute. If you are running lean, you probably have increased counts of knock, which can lead to detonation. I would get a logger if I were you, or turn your boost down a bit and see if that helps with the smoke. Pull your plugs and see what they look like... bright white would indicate you were running lean also. A compression test will tell you if your headgasket is blown, you may want to do that while your messing with your plugs anyways. You could try running a step colder plug also, they are better for higher boost levels.

Redwan.. it is possible you have a bad or leaking seal in the turbo. How certain are you that it was rebuilt? How high of boost are you running on it? Are you letting the car idle a bit before shutting down after hard boosting to keep the oil from cooking in the turbo?

 

[eclipertnr90]

so you think if i were to use higher octane gas such as liek 93 it wouldnt smoke? and what do you mean I have counts of knock? and what is a logger?

 

[Redwan]

i am very certain that it was a rebuild, i got it from this guy who rebuild the turbo..hope its the turbo thts bad,.im hoping its not my head gasket...

 

[khartley]

A logging setup is about $80 for a used palm and the cables. You plug the cable in a spot right by the fuse box inside the car. Search on ebay for a package deal, there is a guy that has been selling them. Its a cheap insurance policy and everyone on here will tell you to get one if you plan on modding.
What octane fuel have you been using?
And Redwan, just cause it was rebuilt doesn't mean your turbo couldn't be blown. I've heard of brand new turbo's blowing, so it could happen. If you are worried about your headgasket, do a compression test and post your results. Is there coolant in your oil?

 

[eclipertnr90]

i tried looking it up on ebay and i couldnt find it do you by any chance know what its called?

 

[eclipertnr90]

i had an oilpan underneath my car overnight so that the oil wouldnt go on my driveway when i woke up this morning i looked at the oil and it was like yellow? does this mean that my coolant is leaking into my oil? and if so what do i do?? its leaking from the oil return line gasket.. is my turbo bad?

 

[eclipertnr90]

i had an oilpan underneath my car overnight so that the oil wouldnt go on my driveway when i woke up this morning i looked at the oil and it was like yellow? does this mean that my coolant is leaking into my oil? and if so what do i do?? its leaking from the oil return line gasket.. is my turbo bad?

 

[russ96gst]

Yellow oil... sounds like time for a new head gasket

 

[DSMIKE4Gsexy3]

head gasket. piston rings. valve seals. could be alot of things.

 

[holo82]

It's hard to say if your turbo is bad without some snooping around and visuals. The yellowish colored oil is usually from some type of non-petroleum liquid mixing with the oil. Most of the time coolant can cause the yellow color, but not always.

How does your dipstick look?
Is there any yellow in your valve cover (pulling the oil filler cap and visually inspect)?

Just because the oil return is leaking on the turbo doesn't necessarily mean it's bad, but that the gasket is. I can't promise it's not though

 

[eclipertnr90]

alright sorry i wrote on here before i did more research on the problem! I changed the oil, from teh return line and there was no sign of coolant, i changed the oil from the oil pan and there was no sign of the coolant, i couldnt figuare it out! this is going to sound dumb the kid i bought it from i guess loosened the cap to the radiator fluid near the engine, and it was practically pouring out, and it leaked all down my engine right where my oil was leaking from!!! haha

but i still dont get why i would have white smoke still!

 

[eclipertnr90]

alright sorry i wrote on here before i did more research on the problem! I changed the oil, from teh return line and there was no sign of coolant, i changed the oil from the oil pan and there was no sign of the coolant, i couldnt figuare it out! this is going to sound dumb the kid i bought it from i guess loosened the cap to the radiator fluid near the engine, and it was practically pouring out, and it leaked all down my engine right where my oil was leaking from!!! haha

but i still dont get why i would have white smoke still!

 

[1SickAuto]

being cold outside can cause whit smoke, but i dont think thats your problem. i would drive it for a little bit and pull the dip stick and see it u have any kind of different color to your oil or if u have bubbles. those are usually signs or a bad headgasket

 

[eclipertnr90]

oohhh alright because the kid can say a lot of stuff! but he said that it never smoked for him? so maybe i didnt let the engine warm up or something? I am almost positive that there wasnt any coolant going into the oil... but i have a manual, and i took my spark plugs out and there white.. and it says in the manual that.. that means there isnt enough coolant getting to engine or to use colder spark plugs could this be anything?

 

[qwtstrn1]

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I have a similar problem with my car. These guys are right check the turbo for shaft play even if it is rebuilt, u never know. Also while ## car is idleing pull off ## radiator cap and see if it is bubbleing. (possible hg) Do a compression check, boost leak test and def get a logger. I skipped the whole logger thing and just got dsmlink. But either way u it is extremely important to know what ## ecu is reading. Check ebay and even the classifieds on this forum and others i have seen a few logger setups for under $100.
The coolant / white smoke coming from ## exhaust (if u have a cat which u may not cause u have a 3 inch t-back....just guessing) could be a build up of coolant burning off in the cat. Ive had that before. Check the easy stuff first and read alot on the forum i have learned so much just by reading and searching even if it has nothing to do with my current problem haveing the knowledge for the future does nothing but give u a step up.
Hope this helps even just a little bit.