Whats your current Dream Turbo

[JusMX141]

I'm planning to rebuild soon (already have the new journals and other parts) and then I plan to feed it from the head with a restrictor based on advice from turboglenn. If it doesn't last at least 15000 miles I'm just going to call it quits and replace it with something better.

Eh, I wouldn't feed from the head with a restrictor using a journal bearing Garrett unless you have no balance shafts and an unported filter housing. Even then I'd still question the restrictor.

It's no secret that type of turbo requires more oil than a MHI unit to keep the journal bearings floating, it's just that they're rather easy to over-oil on our cars because of the great variation in oil pressure levels.

I'm looking for a bolt-on dsm turbo to fit my FP manifold which is capable of 400 AWHP on pump. The number one thing I'm looking for is reliability and durability. This is my DD and I don't want to be rebuilding the turbo ever 2000 miles because it's smoking.

What do you recommend for a bolt-on turbo that can flow 45+ lbs/min and make 400AWHP on pump?? Again, reliability is the number one concern.

Look for one of the older Frank 20G's that use a Garrett compressor wheel mated to a TD06 or 06H turbine. You get MHI reliability with the added flow of what a Garrett compressor can offer.

Holsets are always an option....their oil pressure requirements are outlined well in the Holset service manuals. I'd feed a HX35 from the filter housing with a .0625" (1/16") or .078" (5/64") restrictor on a car that still has balance shafts or has no balance shafts and a ported relief valve.

If you have deep pockets, a ball-bearing 50-trim or one of the SBR GT turbos would do the trick. A ball bearing turbo is simple and reliable....feed the oil from the head with a .030" restrictor no matter what ball bearing cartridge you're using.

 

[Mr Peepers]

HX35 utilizing the stock twin scroll housing. I have a big list of things before that can happen...

 

[Strm Trpr]

Ummm, the GT3076 is = to FP3052.
Not the GT3071.

And as for my dream turbo, it's always been an FP3052, but now there is the DSMHTA76 which is essentially a HTA'd FP3052 that pushes 57lbs/min...
Now the question is, DSM hotside, T3 or Twin Scroll T4?

The FP3082 is looking even more tempting, but need to learn more about it and I need something that spools before or up to 4k rpm for Road Racing...

 

[ILLiCliPSE]

The FP3082 is looking even more tempting, but need to learn more about it and I need something that spools before or up to 4k rpm for Road Racing...

I agree, it does look tempting. But Im a bit partial to something flowing that much with the small 30r turbine wheel. Im curious to see how people like it...

 

[thilaksharma]

Ummm, the GT3076 is = to FP3052.
Not the GT3071.

And as for my dream turbo, it's always been an FP3052, but now there is the DSMHTA76 which is essentially a HTA'd FP3052 that pushes 57lbs/min...
Now the question is, DSM hotside, T3 or Twin Scroll T4?

The FP3082 is looking even more tempting, but need to learn more about it and I need something that spools before or up to 4k rpm for Road Racing...

if 3076 is the fp3052
err wht is the fp3065 equaivalent to
thank u

 

[dsm-onster]

gt35r compressor and gt30turbine wheel with a bolton fp turbine housing. It's equivilent to nothing really. A compressor that flows ALOT more than the turbine, your basic import hybrid.

 

[gsxtasy]

gt35r compressor and gt30turbine wheel with a bolton fp turbine housing. It's equivilent to nothing really. A compressor that flows ALOT more than the turbine, your basic import hybrid.

Isn't that pretty much what an FP3065 is?

 

[Artago]

Look for one of the older Frank 20G's that use a Garrett compressor wheel mated to a TD06 or 06H turbine. You get MHI reliability with the added flow of what a Garrett compressor can offer.

What do you think of the FP 20G-6SL2??

Tom

 

[kahl23]

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Look for one of the older Frank 20G's that use a Garrett compressor wheel mated to a TD06 or 06H turbine. You get MHI reliability with the added flow of what a Garrett compressor can offer.

Isn't that basically a Green or Red? Green with the 50 trim comp wheel, red with the 60-1?

FP3065 is a GT30R turbine wheel with an 82mm compressor wheel off the GT3582R in a bolt on housing. I don't believe Garrett offers it directly but it is sold as the GT3082 by various shops who put I can only assume put it together themselves. Also, HKS sells a variant of it with their T25 flanged turbine housing under the moniker GT3040 (for entirely too much money, and people think Garrett is expensive).

 

[dsm-onster]

^^^ that's what I said an fp3065 was

The frank turbos have a to4E 60-trim compressor with the td06h turbine wheel. or a t04E 60-trim or 54-trim or 46-trim compressor with a td06 turbine wheel. or a t04E 46-trim compressor with a td05h turbine wheel.

The FPgreen is a td06h turbine wheel mated to a t04E 50-trim compressor wheel. And the FPred is a a clipped td06h turbine wheel mated to the t04b 60-1 compressor wheel. I think you can get the fpred unclipped. Personally, I'd prefer the FPred with an unclipped turbine and the 8cm^2 MHI housing over the clipped 7cm^2 housing version. Never liked a clipped turbine wheel, especially when there are other larger turbine housings to choose.

gt35r compressor and gt30turbine wheel with a bolton fp turbine housing. It's equivilent to nothing really. A compressor that flows ALOT more than the turbine, your basic import hybrid.

Isn't that pretty much what an FP3065 is?

That's the question I was answering

 

[TunaTalon]

Well, as long as we're just dreaming how about the turbo from the 911 Porsche with the variable turbine geometry? It acts like a small turbo at low RPM and like a big turbo at full boil.

 

[Slippi84]

A gt42r that spools like a t25 o

I think the turbo I have is my real dream turbo and it's not even on there. Capable of flowing 96lbs/min and spools as good as some 65lb/min turbos.

Billet HX52 w/ divided 16cm t4 housing FTW!!!!!!

 

[TSIMonsteR]

Currently dreaming of a compound turbo setup for my DD.

I'm thinking 16g + S362 or something

Great spool, good topend, and not THAT complicated honestly.

 

[thilaksharma]

wow , looks like the vote of HX35 seems to be increasing
why do u guys favour the 35 instead of the 40
whereby the price arent that much diffrent

 

[mindset]

wow , looks like the vote of HX35 seems to be increasing
why do u guys favour the 35 instead of the 40
whereby the price arent that much diffrent

They simply last.

 

[JusMX141]

why do u guys favour the 35 instead of the 40
whereby the price arent that much diffrent

Probably because most guys don't have a mod list long enough to allow their car to fully utilize 70 lb/min of airflow. A HX40 is significantly larger than a HX35 in terms of wheel size and airflow potential.

Think of it this way....there's almost a 10 lb/min difference in peak airflow between the HX35 and HX40; there's only a 6-8 lb/min difference between a 14B and an Evo III 16G, and we all know what a difference lies between those two turbos.

The HX35 is a 50-trim Garrett on steroids, making perfectly suitable power for the majority of the DSM population.

 

[thilaksharma]

Probably because most guys don't have a mod list long enough to allow their car to fully utilize 70 lb/min of airflow. A HX40 is significantly larger than a HX35 in terms of wheel size and airflow potential.

Think of it this way....there's almost a 10 lb/min difference in peak airflow between the HX35 and HX40; there's only a 6-8 lb/min difference between a 14B and an Evo III 16G, and we all know what a difference lies between those two turbos.

The HX35 is a 50-trim Garrett on steroids, making perfectly suitable power for the majority of the DSM population.

thats seem to be a good anwser , seem like we asians are more greedy than u guys
wht we usually buy is usually the highest flow turbo we can afford regardless of the engine setup we have hehehehe , maybe due to price , we opt for the GT35 in a heartbeat even for a mild modded engine (272 cams , stock head , stock block) , our price for the GT35 is about USD1k

u may go to this link to see this similar poll and see how greedy the asians get hehehe
What Excites You ? - Zerotohundred.com

nobody runs a 50trim here , i can count them in with my fingers which includes me
and we just dnt have much holsets around due to limited comercial vehicles tht run them

 

[Slippi84]

Probably because most guys don't have a mod list long enough to allow their car to fully utilize 70 lb/min of airflow. A HX40 is significantly larger than a HX35 in terms of wheel size and airflow potential.

Think of it this way....there's almost a 10 lb/min difference in peak airflow between the HX35 and HX40; there's only a 6-8 lb/min difference between a 14B and an Evo III 16G, and we all know what a difference lies between those two turbos.

The HX35 is a 50-trim Garrett on steroids, making perfectly suitable power for the majority of the DSM population.

Makes sense but I disagree with the logic.

turbosharky = fast sppoling 650whp car = hx40 with bolt on housing

 

[ninesixtwo]

thats seem to be a good anwser , seem like we asians are more greedy than u guys
wht we usually buy is usually the highest flow turbo we can afford regardless of the engine setup we have hehehehe , maybe due to price , we opt for the GT35 in a heartbeat even for a mild modded engine (272 cams , stock head , stock block) , our price for the GT35 is about USD1k

u may go to this link to see this similar poll and see how greedy the asians get hehehe
What Excites You ? - Zerotohundred.com

nobody runs a 50trim here , i can count them in with my fingers which includes me
and we just dnt have much holsets around due to limited comercial vehicles tht run them

Sounds like you have greed and foolishness confused. Going with the highest flowing turbo "just because" is a terrible idea.

 

[gsxtasy]

That's the question I was answering

Dur dur dur, reading>me.

 

[ed_dogg23]

Id like to see my car filled with a 2.4l and a T6 HX60. . . . . . .

 

[thilaksharma]

Sounds like you have greed and foolishness confused. Going with the highest flowing turbo "just because" is a terrible idea.

kinda right too , bt with stock block and head with lil cams and some mods like FMIC , MLS , ARP's etc
these guys are putting up good numbers around 400whp on the Dyno Dynamics which should be much over 450whp on Dynojets with the GT35's

 

[babyviper]

A HTAGT35r82r on a 2.4 with bc 280 or 272 9:0.1 cr with jmf smi ooooo MY GOD wow

 

[kahl23]

kinda right too , bt with stock block and head with lil cams and some mods like FMIC , MLS , ARP's etc
these guys are putting up good numbers around 400whp on the Dyno Dynamics which should be much over 450whp on Dynojets with the GT35's

I don't consider 450whp with a GT35R to be "good numbers," especially considering that many Asian countries get higher octane gas from the pump than we do stateside. IMHO if you have a 65 lb/min+ turbo and you are putting down 450hp, you are definitely not doing something right.

 

[thilaksharma]

I don't consider 450whp with a GT35R to be "good numbers," especially considering that many Asian countries get higher octane gas from the pump than we do stateside. IMHO if you have a 65 lb/min+ turbo and you are putting down 450hp, you are definitely not doing something right.

these are the numbers on stock block , stock head at low boost aroun 14-20psi only.
When cash come in handy , they will opt for stronger internals and further push the turbo to its limits