What years have the stronger transmission?

[StarionGSX]

Is there a difference between 1g/2g AWD trans? Is one stronger? I will be looking for an AWD trans for an upcoming project and was wondering if there was any differences. I can't seem to find this info by searching.

Plan is a stock build just to get it running and see if it can be done. After that I will be shooting for 400-500 HP. Maybe more if the trans can take it.

 

[StarionGSX]

Nobody knows the answer to this?

 

[StarFawkes]

Stock transmissions can reliably hold stock power levels. Once you start making more than stock power there will always be a chance for your transmission to fail. Both automatic and manual will hold up well if you have them built up to handle the extra power.

 

[HIGHPSI4]

If you will search you will find out that some gear sets are stronger than others.

 

[Archer Fabrications]

Evo 3 trans is stronger

 

[DSM1G90]

F5M22 trannies uses lighter ball bearings found in NT 1G vehicles. The F5M33 tranny used Timken taper roller bearings to make the tranny stronger due to the higher output power of the turbo motor. Prob the EVO trannies are also the F5M33 variety being a turbo motor under the hood.

 

[donniekak]

The strongest headset came in the 1990 model year cars. The 2 g transmissions have a very weak 3-4 hub/slider that explodes from much more than 400 ft/lbs.

 

[HckyMstr19]

yea evos will definitely be stronger

 

[mikestalon90]

It also depends on what car you are putting it in for example a 1g tranny will not fit in a 2g but you can put a 2g tranny in a 1g. But neither tranny can hold up to a lot of power but can be built to handle it

 

[StarionGSX]

Well that's interesting. Is there a physical difference between the 1g and 2g? What about the evo3 trans? Is it bigger or about the same size? Also does anyone know the width of the engine/trans assembly from crank pulley to the end of the trans?

I'm not planning to put it in a DSM. I'm researching the idea of converting my Starion to AWD. I know I will probably have to relocate the passenger side frame rail a bit to fit the trans. Welding and fab isn't a problem for me.


Thanks guys for the help so far. I haven't had much luck searching for this info.

 

[DSM1G90]

If AWD, you would need the W5M33 tranny built esp for AWD vehicles since it has the output for the rear shaft and the viscous coupler.

 

[StarionGSX]

Well yeah, in my first post I said I was looking for an AWD trans.


Anyone have the measurement from balancer pulley to the end of the trans on an AWD setup? Just trying to judge how much I will have to cut if any.

 

[91talon91]

Late 92-94's have double cone 2nd gear synchronizers. This in a good condition transmission will hold up to 350-400 as long its not abusively launched.

 

[dkalfop]

Sorry to interrupt, but is it really possible to make a starion awd? I didn't think that was an option. One thing I know about all cars is the weakest link goes first and without understanding power transfer if your going to build a awd system on a car with parts from other cars is you better ready to spend a lot of money and time and that's its if your mechanically inclined. Awd turbos I have been hooked from my first car a 86 Buick grand national turbo rwd and the car would light the tires up no traction. My first love was Toyota celica awd turbo. Maybe you might want to start with a platform that is awd so upgrading parts are tested and track proven, example shep transmissions. I do want to know what is needed to bullet proof my driveline for 400wheel hp? Then you can know what you'll need, but I know these parts are not cheap.

 

[WES_393]

Sorry to interrupt, but is it really possible to make a starion awd? I didn't think that was an option.

Not for the public, but there was an AWD Starion built for Rally.

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[David9er]

First of all your Starion looks like it is in mint condition, it is absolutely beautiful.

According to Wikipedia [They have no reference for this unfortunately] Mitsubishi made an AWD Starion for rally racing by adding a transfer case from a "Pajero" and an unspecified front differential in a somewhat similar setup to what the Nissan Skyline uses.

This seems to be the easy way to go not to mention that the Wikia Author claims it helps the weight distribution front to rear because the 4G63 sits further back than it does in an EVO or DSM since it sits longitudinally instead of horizontally.

[ame=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi_Starion]Mitsubishi Starion - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]

Ahh! WES_393 beat me to it!