What Intercooler are you 50 trim guys using?

[kpt4321]

Use the FMIC with a big core and pipes and stuff.

Seriously, stop saying "use AGP, no use SBR, no, use BR..." They will all achieve the same thing.

 

[flsupraguy]

agp kit for sure i have it and love the thing. i could take some pics for you later and post them.

I would love to see pics of that setup.

 

[Z1500]

FYI the AGP kit fits with both the stock fans. So no overheating with slimlines. It also totally fills the bumper cover opening on the 97+ with i/c core and no endtank in seen.

 

[kmartind]

I'd also like to see pics of the AGP 2g FMIC kit on a 97-99. I'm considering that and possibly one of their Garrett kits (plus more supporting mods obviously) now that this car doesn't need to be a daily driver anymore (still street driven at times, but not daily).
It might just be me but I think the 95-96 style front end looks pretty bad/hacked with a large FMIC in many cases. Hoping the 97-99 looks a lot cleaner. A 24" wide core doesn't seem like it would quite fill it, but 28" would, so I'm torn between filling the bumper or keeping the stock fogs. Either that or the ProStreet method with high inlet/outlet guaranteed to sacrifice the entire bumper support.

 

[VBGSX]

Here's the AGP kit on my 97 eclipse

 

[miden]

VBGSX :

How much cutting did you have do do for your AGP core? Did you have to get rid of the foglamps?

-M

 

[kmartind]

Thanks.
Looks just like I was hoping it would, perfect fit for the front end without the endtanks blocking any airflow at all. You're running 850 injectors off a 190 pump though?
Anyway it's pretty obvious the fogs are gone since you can see the I/C piping through the holes, but that's to be expected with this large a core, and doesn't look bad at all (to me at least). Mounting just a lens of some kind in there might clean it up even more.
Is the bumper support gone completely?

 

[Agent Ezzard]

Yes the bumper support is gone. Atleast it is on my car.

 

[VBGSX]

Thanks.
Looks just like I was hoping it would, perfect fit for the front end without the endtanks blocking any airflow at all. You're running 850 injectors off a 190 pump though?
Anyway it's pretty obvious the fogs are gone since you can see the I/C piping through the holes, but that's to be expected with this large a core, and doesn't look bad at all (to me at least). Mounting just a lens of some kind in there might clean it up even more.
Is the bumper support gone completely?

I probably had to cut about 1-1 1/2 inches of the opening to make it fit.
As you can see, it fits really nice.

I also reused the black plastic peice that helps to route the air to the radiator. Of course I had to cut it to make it work, but it helps to seal the radiator, condencer, FMIC together. It helps fight overheating. I had the AC on today and it was hot outside. No problems and the temp guage stayed at it's normal place.

Yes, Fogs are gone.

I did not loose my bumper support! I just cut the lower portion of it to perfectly fit the FMIC.

Off topic but yes 850's and a rewired 190. I have DSM link and at 20psi I'm only at about 65% injector duty cycle. The pump never looses a beat. Myself and others have said for a long time that the 190 is under rated by most people. There are people running 25psi+ on a 190 and a 50 trim. Sorry, back on topic

Like someone said, any decent core will work
I just prefer mine

 

[IMMORTALSPYDER]

Have you considered the Hahn kit?

 

[kmartind]

Yeah, I think most everyone cuts that black part out on a 97-99, but keeping most of the bumper support is a plus (in addition to being able to keep both stock fans if desired), it just seems more structurelly sound that way even if it won't likley make a huge difference in anything but a low-speed funder-bender.
As previously mentioned any of the above kits will probably work fine but it's often the little differences that help in choosing the right setup for a particular car.

 

[Agent Ezzard]

Another thing about the AGP kit is that your coolant tank has to be relocated. Mine is presently residing where the stock SMIC used to be. I had a tech inspector at the track confused as hell trying to find it.

 

[VBGSX]

Yeah, I think most everyone cuts that black part out on a 97-99, but keeping most of the bumper support is a plus (in addition to being able to keep both stock fans if desired), it just seems more structurelly sound that way even if it won't likley make a huge difference in anything but a low-speed funder-bender.
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Yes I cut the black peice at the top but I also had to cut(1-1.5 in) at the bottom/back of the opening to make it fit right.

Another thing about the AGP kit is that your coolant tank has to be relocated. Mine is presently residing where the stock SMIC used to be. I had a tech inspector at the track confused as hell trying to find it.

Exactly what I did also. Looks really good in there....

 

[eclipsegsx9797]

its a little un even but o well it gets the job done

 

[STECARS]

http://www.yonaka.com/


FMIC 24X12X3 = $3OO

 

[kevingst]

http://www.yonaka.com/


FMIC 24X12X3 = $3OO

hmmmm, that don't look bad

 

[stangtt]

http://www.yonaka.com/


FMIC 24X12X3 = $3OO

FYI - That is the core Street Imports uses. Cheap POS tube and fin. I would know, I have it..

 

[Omega]

Has anyone noticed that these $1000+ intercooler kits have shitty end tank designs?! Take a look and any other part of your car.. exhaust, intake.. they all have nice smooth transitions with very little bends. Look at the intercoolers and the end tanks are friggin' boxes that make the air take a 90 deg bend! The pressure drop on these things must be insane.

That Yonaka IC might not have the best core, but sheet... the end tank is VERY well thought out. It is nicely off set so that all the air doesn't just flow straight across and pressurize the rest. I am talking about the small and medium sized cores.. the large is crap. With that size, using the same core and end tanks, the inlet should be on the bottom and the outlet on the top (or vice-versa).

 

[IMMORTALSPYDER]

Why is the Yonaka/Street Imports intercooler such a piece of shit? I know it's tube and fin but it can't be that bad.

 

[eclipsegsx9797]

Has anyone noticed that these $1000+ intercooler kits have shitty end tank designs?! Take a look and any other part of your car.. exhaust, intake.. they all have nice smooth transitions with very little bends. Look at the intercoolers and the end tanks are friggin' boxes that make the air take a 90 deg bend! The pressure drop on these things must be insane.

That Yonaka IC might not have the best core, but sheet... the end tank is VERY well thought out. It is nicely off set so that all the air doesn't just flow straight across and pressurize the rest. I am talking about the small and medium sized cores.. the large is crap. With that size, using the same core and end tanks, the inlet should be on the bottom and the outlet on the top (or vice-versa).

ya thats y this core has done 10's must be a realy shitty design

 

[L2RTSiAWD]

ya thats y this core has done 10's must be a realy shitty design

10's means nothing. Running a better design could net better times.

Just because someome ran 10's with something doesn't automatically make it the best fit for your car.

 

[eclipsegsx9797]

running 10's means alot, i know your not.

if it has gone that then its proven to work. there are many other fmic out that with alsome design such as ams 1g fmic with round endtanks. everyone has there own say in this i know that but you have think something is good when you see a few cars running 10's with this kit and alot of people running 11's.

 

[paul s]

I'm using the Greddy24 I/C and it looks and works awsome and you get to keep the fogs..

 

[fish3rboi]

Has anyone heard anything good/bad about the kinetic motorsports setup? Its priced fairly good and seems to be large enough for most the turbos out there..

http://www.kineticmotorsport.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=132_100&products_id=42

 

[VBGSX]

Has anyone heard anything good/bad about the kinetic motorsports setup? Its priced fairly good and seems to be large enough for most the turbos out there..

http://www.kineticmotorsport.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=132_100&products_id=42

Kinetic's and Slowboy's = same thing
They are working together with it.