What can I do with my 95 2gNT?

[Billydakiddsk1911]

I have had a 1995 Eclipse for a while now that I wanna get back on the road again finally.

I am a Honda builder (sorry) and I know nothing about these cars except for some are scary fast and my brothers GST is one of those. Now my brothers is a 97 GST so 4g63t where as mine is a 420a. I would love to go with the 4g63 as they are way more readily available and fast. As I'm doing research I see Mitsubishi used this engine in pretty much every 2.0 they or Dodge made.

So my question is, what will me my easiest and cheapest way to get this thing driveable and reliable?

I'm not rich but I want to do this right. I'm a machinist and a welder so i can do my own fab work or make new mounts myself, if need be, so thats not my issue I just simply wanna get it going for now with a little pep and have some fun and be able to get to work.

Of course I would want to turbo it either out the gate or after I get it going. Either way I don't care, wrenching is a hobby for me so it will be fun. I guess what I want to know is what swap will be easiest, if not easiest how much fab is actually needed and where can I get decent parts at a good price.

Sorry if any of these are rhetorical questions, like I said, I'm new here and I'm new to DSM but thats soon to change. Thanks anyone for your input lets get these babies built and go cruise!

 

[Shimmer]

Maybe somebody with more experience can chime in after me but I think the general consensus is that it's way more trouble than it's worth to put a 4G63 into an RS. I think you're better off selling what you have and looking for a GST/GSX if that's your end goal.

If you're adamant that you want to stick with the chassis that you have just for the sake of doing it then you'll probably be putting in a lot of time and money to get the 4G63 engine into the bay.

 

[pauleyman]

I'll summarize like this. Have you ever selected a chassis and said I'd like to put xyz motor in this. Because that is exactly what you're doing. The fact that both are an Eclipse is not at all relevant. It's a big fabrication job on all points plus harness etc.
For 25 years now we have been posting the same thing. It is not worth it.

 

[luv2rallye]

Yes it's not worth the many years of time you'll end up spending and many $1000's and $1000's to convert the 420A to 4g63t even with your skill.

Nothing on the Chrysler 420A can be used on the Mitsubishi 4G63T - 2 completely and incompatible engines/trannys, ECU's, wire harnesses, etc. You'll end up really regretting it taking 10 years and $10000 to complete and possibly never working totally right.

If you want a project, buy a GST (FWD) or GSX (AWD) shell that needs engine/tranny/body work. There's 1000's of them out there and on classifieds here dirt cheap that don't run that are perfect for someone looking for a project. And since you want a turbo which requires many unique supporting factory parts, again you should get one already with it (which is the GST/GSX) even if the turbo needs work/replacement.

Keep in mind they stopped making DSM parts years ago so you'll be trolling for used parts (which also are getting in short supply).

 

[chrysler kid]

Just me,
Enjoy the car for what it is first. Do the suspension, get a set of wheels, get a sound system and rock the car as a fun daily driver gas saver.

Once youve had your fun and have a back up vehicle to take to work build a budget turbo kit and enjoy getting to know the process. If you want to be the guy who built his own car then turbo it and be known as the guy. If you want to slip a credit card down and go fast, sell it and buy a turbo model

 

[Billydakiddsk1911]

Yeah thanks guys, we have had this car for a long time and like I said we have a GST already and I really want a GSX or TSI cause of all wheel drive and here in Colorado we have snow and it comes in handy.

I did a ton of research before asked this but I haven't had the chance to talk to any real DSM guys but i now have my answer. The car runs with the stock 420a, just needs a clutch. I'm just that guy that has to modify everything all the time and I'm used to my cheap ass Hondas that I can do all kinds of stuff with for cents on the dollar.

Guess it's time to track down something better for my modding habits. I can't lie we have been dreaming of making the Paul Walker Eclipse since fast and furious came out with this car but I've never personally done the research to figure out what it would take.

Now I know so thanks again guys for all the help and advice!

 

[pauleyman]

Yeah thanks guys, we have had this car for a long time and like I said we have a GST already and I really want a GSX or TSI cause of all wheel drive and here in Colorado we have snow and it comes in handy.

I did a ton of research before asked this but I haven't had the chance to talk to any real DSM guys but i now have my answer. The car runs with the stock 420a, just needs a clutch. I'm just that guy that has to modify everything all the time and I'm used to my cheap ass Hondas that I can do all kinds of stuff with for cents on the dollar.

Guess it's time to track down something better for my modding habits. I can't lie we have been dreaming of making the Paul Walker Eclipse since fast and furious came out with this car but I've never personally done the research to figure out what it would take.

Now I know so thanks again guys for all the help and advice!

You think that car actually had mods?

 

[wtfhaks]

I havent really read any of the other comments, but look into a putting a G4JS head on a 4G69 block, and bolting it onto the kia/hyundai trans from the G4JS car. The engine and trans assembly you would be building should almost bolt right into the 2GNT chassis. I've heard it requires no fabrication although you can definitely do it better with a little fab work. I am pretty sure you also need a GS-T harness. Once you're into the 4G platform you can do so much with your car. you could destroke it to 2.2L with a stock 4G63 crankshaft.
I am planning a future build like this. I'll be destroking it to 1.8L

search on the Evo forums and stuff for a G4JS head swap and you will get plenty of info for that. otherwise its just mating the engine and trans, dropping it into the car, doing the harness, and then tuning.