What are all the parts to a 4g63t?

[fmars62]

Im a noob to dsm's and will be buying one and I want to learn more about the engine like how it's put together where and what are all of the parts. So does anyone have a link or something that breaks down the 4g63t so I can know how it is. thanks.

and can you guys please help with my question below too thanks.

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/hangout/416360-noob-buying-car-questions.html

 

[newTSIguy]

I learned by getting a manual, getting my hands dirty, and doing exactly what he is doing, asking stupid questions, for every ten people that dog on you for being stupid there will be one to help you understand.

 

[CrawlinZX14]

not trying to be harsh, but a shop class is likely going to be a far better tool than asking questions on the internet in hopes that your going to gain the correct knowledge to ever even pick up a wrench and turn it. There is a certain touch of common knowledge to this, and unless you come into a DSM with a general idea of whats going on, your likely to just get rid of it after the first 5 things go wrong in a week.

So all in all, I would suggest either taking a shop class, or even an engines class at a college if he is no longer in high school. All things considered it would be a better place to learn as you will see, feel and taste all the things you do. And if u think taste isnt involved, try forgetting you have some dirty hands after wrenching and touch your mouth, or be really dumb and crack the oil pan drain plug when your face is to close to the catch pan and it splash into your mouth. Not like I have been that dumb ever or anything.

 

[Colt4G63 also]

Sure, some stupid questions are one thing, but everything? I know you aren't supposed to ask someone to "search" in the newbie forum, but "Tell me everything" is an an incredibly broad question. Where does one start?

 

[Bud92gsx]

Mosr of us learn by wrenching and getting our hands dirty..As well as making mistakes...That happens as well..

True story..Tell me eveything is kinda broad, but at least the kid wants to learn..

 

[fmars62]

guys im not a complete noob to cars i just dont know about dsms, yeah i know what a crank is and a good idea of where it goes but i just dont really know about dsm's and the names for their parts and the abbreviations you use. u guys should be happy that i want to join you dsm enthusiasts... i know you just trying to help but still. an dyes i am actually transferring next semester to get my bachelors in auto tech.

 

[2slow4now]

The manuals and doing searches will help but to learn I think some hands on with something less complex so you don't get discouraged would be a good place to start. Just go get a junk lawnmower engine and piddle around with it. Start with a one cylinder engine and understand it then throw 3 more into that and its a 4 cylinder. Then you can just build your knowledge from there. Adding things like cooling systems, turbos, electronics, performance upgrades, etc.
Don't be too hard on him guys. I wish my boys would ask "How does an engine work?" They think mechanics is some mystical anomaly. Maintenance is if it starts then all you have to do is pour gas in it. WTF

 

[newTSIguy]

here is some links to help you out


DO YOU KNOW HOW A GAS ENGINE WORKS, HERES HOW! - YouTube How a turbo works - YouTube

DSM terminology - DsmWiki

 

[Flipside6900]

I've had my 1GB for almost 3 years and it really does take time and effort to learn what everything is and what it does. Google is an absolutely amazing too that works great, but when you do a search on line you do have to weed out ad's, and forum junk that you don't need. A Mitsibishi Factory Service manual will take you very far in doing most repairs/maintainence on a dsm, but when you get into upgrades there's just so many different routes and products that
it's hard for any one place to cover everything. I picked this book up about 6 months ago, read it cover to cover in three days, and now I go back to it on a normal basis, for less the 5 dollars it's a great deal and an excelent tool to use along side a FSM.

Amazon.com: Mitsubishi & Diamond Star Performance TuningHP1496: A Hands-On Guide for Building the Ultimate High-Performance Mitsubishi Eclipse,Eagle Talon or Plymouth Laser, 1990-1999 Models (9781557884961): Keith Buglewicz: Books

This second one is really good if your really looking to go big with your mods

Amazon.com: Modifying Your Mitsubishi Powered DSM & EVO's 4G63 (9780977148271): David Peterson: Books

I have a few other ones that are long out of production and imposible to find now. Really those three will have you covered in most any situation with a dsm and if all else fails, just come here!

 

[Avatar_Squadron]

I agree with the above about manuals. Really an excellent source of info.

Another thing i like to do when bored is jump on the the tech guide of this site:
Tech Guide - DSMtuners
Or the parts catalogue
DSM - DSMtuners.com

1. Look up a part i want to learn about
2. Do a forum/google search on that part
3. Read the threads in the hit

as you peruse the forum, other topics will be suggested, mentioned, and hijacked into. Just keep recursively searching forums and google for these topics and you'll learn a lot.

There's also some great publications out there. A lot of the community members run their own sites with tech diaries and track day reports.

Lastly, when i got started i grabbed this book: Amazon.com: How to Build Max-Performance Mitsubishi 4G63t Engines (S-A Design) (Performance How-To) (9781932494624): Robert Bowen: Books

I found mine cheap off eBay. Whether the community wholeheartedly agrees with the author or not (he worked/works for Road Race Engineering, a well known speed shop), the book is chalked full of commentary, discussion, and explanations of all the niggling little details around building and tuning a 4g63. At the very least it will wet your appetite and give you ideas of what kinds of things to look for so you can make better google searchs and ask better, more directed questions that will get good responses.

As a last freebie, i enjoyed these article and thread a lot:
Autocross.dsm.org - DSM Specific Autocross Tech Articles - AWD Differential Tech
http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/newbie-forum/229338-stupid-pcv-question.html

 

[CrawlinZX14]

guys im not a complete noob to cars i just dont know about dsms, yeah i know what a crank is and a good idea of where it goes but i just dont really know about dsm's and the names for their parts and the abbreviations you use. u guys should be happy that i want to join you dsm enthusiasts... i know you just trying to help but still. an dyes i am actually transferring next semester to get my bachelors in auto tech.

Seriously? And you are still not sure where a crank goes? Im sorry but I would really ask for a refund at that point. Unless you are starting to get into those classes you should know where that stuff goes within a week. Lets see if you have some of the basics.

What are the 4 cycles of a standard 4 stroke engine? In no particular order either..

Lets see what you already do know, and then lets go from there. Since most people getting into auto's in general have some basic previous knowledge prior to diving into something they know absolutely nothing about. I dont mean to sound like a dick, but it almost seems as if this a joke your trying to play on the community, or your just trolling for topics. Either way, it seems off to me. Why would you want to wet your whistle on a DSM when there are so many more user friendly platforms out there? I mean a small block V8 will offer you so much more wiggle room, is dirt cheap, and are extremely abundant at any junk yard for under 500 bux. Pick up an engine stand and start tearing it down taking mental note where everything is and as you go along you will normally start to fit the pieces together. Thats about where I started when tinkering with cars, except I had some friends helping me along.

Pick up a jegs or summit catalog even and start looking at parts out there, and then ask educated questions as to what does this do, and how can I use it to help better my engine or increase performance. Things like that will get you much farther than, Whats all this stuff in my motor, like everything. And as far as the abbreviated items like a TPS, BOV and things of the such, you will begin to learn those things in time. For now just use their proper names like throttle position sensor and Blow off valve. Those will get you far more knowledge than trying to learn abbreviated terms for items you still have no idea what they do. And once you learn the proper terms you will likely figure out what they are used for as the names are normally self explanitory.

 

[fmars62]

Ok crawlin not one thing u said is true, u really have no clue who I am and what I know, why can't u just answer the question like the others? I have a good understanding of cars I just never really knew how the engines worked and where exactly some of the parts go, yes I know where a crank goes. And im not even studying auto tech yet im in sm. College right now and next year I will start studying... and again u should be happy that I like dsms and want to join u and get one, not bash on me so I don't...

 

[Alex7747]

Ya idk about the haynes manual but the chilton tells you step by step how to completely rebuild your motor and diagnose what parts need to be replaced. exe.. Best $20 I have ever spent next to that hooker in mexico

 

[daplatano91]

Not 4g63 but hopefully this helps

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[Alex7747]

Ok crawlin not one thing u said is true, u really have no clue who I am and what I know, why can't u just answer the question like the others? I have a good understanding of cars I just never really knew how the engines worked and where exactly some of the parts go, yes I know where a crank goes. And im not even studying auto tech yet im in sm. College right now and next year I will start studying... and again u should be happy that I like dsms and want to join u and get one, not bash on me so I don't...

go to a local junkyard and start taring shit apart . I'm sure you could learn the basics of engines in there. and it would only cost $2 for entrance

 

[daplatano91]

go to a local junkyard and start taring shit apart . I'm sure you could learn the basics of engines in there. and it would only cost $2 for entrance

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Epic advice I can just see it now. A trail of torn apart cars with no idea how to put it back together. Banging a camsaft into a wheel bearing" I could have sworn I pulled this out of here"

 

[Alex7747]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Epic advice I can just see it now. A trail of torn apart cars with no idea how to put it back together. Banging a camsaft into a wheel bearing" I could have sworn I pulled this out of here"

LMFAO!! hey I'm sure he could learn something that way though

 

[ArmyGSX]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Epic advice I can just see it now. A trail of torn apart cars with no idea how to put it back together. Banging a camsaft into a wheel bearing" I could have sworn I pulled this out of here"

That brought a tear to my eyes I laughed so hard... I can even picture it

As others have said tho, get a manual and read..

 

[NickF509]

Wow i actually liked this video a lot and I agree with guy and always have, engines are primitive.

Not 4g63 but hopefully this helps

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[talonDSMerr]

Everybody starts somewhere, don't feel bad that you might not know too much at the moment. Once you get your DSM and start working on it yourself, you'll pick it up quick. Any questions you may have, post it up. We're all here to help. (most of us anyways)

 

[na alltheway]

i kinda know how your feeling... when i bought my eagle, i knew NOTHING about the motors. my first 2 car were ford escorts and i knew everything about there sohc motors worked by the time i wwas doe with them, sure some mistakes were made through the process, but by the time i was done i knew it all. now that ive had my eagle for a year now, and after days at the junkers, hours online learning shi, and my own curiosity i now know a very good understanding of these motors and parts and how they work.

 

[CrawlinZX14]

Im a noob to dsm's and will be buying one and I want to learn more about the engine like how it's put together where and what are all of the parts. So does anyone have a link or something that breaks down the 4g63t so I can know how it is. thanks.

and can you guys please help with my question below too thanks.

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/hangout/416360-noob-buying-car-questions.html

^ that takes me no where.

and im looking for a something that just breaks down the 4g63t engine so i can know what each part is and what its called and where it goes. because im looking for engine builds and stuff and i see people saying like eagle rods, head studs, dsmlink and etc. and idk what one of those mean.



and yes! thats what i mean all of those parts, i dont really know what those mean but i got a basic understanding, but i want to learn so i can understand fully

guys im not a complete noob to cars i just dont know about dsms,(Yup, cause rods on any other car are different than a DSM, and they go in different places too) yeah i know what a crank is and a good idea of where it goes but i just dont really know about dsm's and the names for their parts and the abbreviations you use. u guys should be happy that i want to join you dsm enthusiasts... i know you just trying to help but still. an dyes i am actually transferring next semester to get my bachelors in auto tech.

Ok crawlin not one thing u said is true, u really have no clue who I am and what I know, why can't u just answer the question like the others? I have a good understanding of cars I just never really knew how the engines worked and where exactly some of the parts go, yes I know where a crank goes. And im not even studying auto tech yet im in sm. College right now and next year I will start studying... and again u should be happy that I like dsms and want to join u and get one, not bash on me so I don't...

Ok, Please note all the parts I have highlighted here. No I dont know you, but I have a pretty good idea of what you know based on what you have said thus far..... Am I trying to bash you NO, am I trying to get you to slow down and read a little? YUP. If you want hands on experience then either go to a pick n pull and start breaking a ton of crap that you dont need, or take some classes. Everyone has to start somewhere, but most people atleast have a basic knowledge. In one statement you say that you know what a crank is and have an idea of where it should go, and then later u say you know what it is?? Obviously your young and starting to get a little butt hurt about people giving you a little crap for coming in here with this.

Honestly get some books and read up, most people are going to be sarcastic to you at the very least because not knowing what a TPS is because we call it a TPS and not a throttle position sensor is kind of funny. Then knowing its a throttle position sensor pretty much dictates that its located on the throttle body affixed to the shaft that controls the butterfly of the throttle body. Then we can assume that it will tell the ECU what position the throttle plate is in and that coupled with the readings of the MAF and O2 will dictate the amount of fuel needed to power the engine for the given amount of air flow currently in the engine.

Lets face it, your have made many contradictory statements thus far and seem to be completely uneducated on cars, or your trolling. Either way it seems you need to read. Either the terms of the forum, or some books on vehicles. Especially books on fuel injected vehicles. The sensors on the DSM are all the same as damn near any other fuel injected vehicle, only their placement is different in corrolation to others.

Saying you dont know what eagle rods are or head studs just makes me laugh since you claim to know cars. Head studs are the bolts that hold the cylinder head to the block. Eagle is a brand name of connecting rods. Again you would find that out by simply picking up a parts magazine. Hell even import tuner has pages of parts in there and some common sense would be able to put 2 and 2 together. and BTW 2+2 does not =5. DSM Link is a type of ECU modification designed to allow people to tune their ECU for their setup without running a standalone ECU

I am not trying to discourage you from joining the DSM community, nor buying a DSM. I am however trying to tell you to slow down, read some, and take a hands off approach for a while until you have a better understanding of whats going on. Knowledge is power my good sir, and right now it seems as if you need to pay your electric bill..

guys im not a complete noob to cars i just dont know about dsms, yeah i know what a crank is and a good idea of where it goes but i just dont really know about dsm's and the names for their parts and the abbreviations you use. u guys should be happy that i want to join you dsm enthusiasts... i know you just trying to help but still. an dyes i am actually transferring next semester to get my bachelors in auto tech.

Dont know how I missed this GEM on the first part.

 

[99gst_racer]

I can't view TY vids at work, so I hope this is the correct link.


BUILDING AN ENGINE IN 10 MINUTES (4G63 - DSM) - YouTube