turbo for reliable car

[dan2288]

Im stuck between the evo3 16g and a 5o trim. I plan on getting 650cc injectors and just a chip. Maybe put some 272 cams in there. I allready have head studs and mls headgasket. I dont plan on doing anything to the bottom end. Ill run 20-22 psi on the street. Which turbo will I be better off with? I want the car to be pretty reliable and not breakdown every weekend. I had a 2.3, 280s and a 3065 before and it was too much for a DD. Give me your opinions

 

[Dsmj89]

Good thing you posted this cause i am going to build my car as well with pretty much the same setup you might be running. I say go for the 50 trim. It's a good all around pump gas turbo and if you can i'd upgrade to a set of 750cc injectors so you don't max out the 650's.

 

[BoredDSM]

You should consider an hx35 there all the rave now. A lot of people put a lot of mileage on them and there re-build able. Fairly cheap to attain one too.

 

[Imback]

The evo316g is a reliable turbo plus it spools quick so it's a nice street turbo. Since your not doing much with the car i would say get the evo316g it's more then capable of giving you what your looking for.

 

[Boosted_out]

I say the evo3 as well. Its a good reliable turbo with great spool for the street.

 

[dan2288]

yea, its gonna be a stock 7 bolt so im not trying to blow it up. You think a 50 trim would be safe of would that be pushing it?

 

[one_bad_7]

im a 16g fan i ahve one on my car and it is great for the streets..

 

[JoEgsX90]

evo16g if its a DD

 

[z24frank]

why the evo16 instead of a small or even big?

 

[JusMX141]

For sheer reliability, the Evo III 16G or TD05H 20G. No doubt about it.

I think there are much more reliable non-Mitsu branded choices than the 50-trim Garrett Hybrids these days, including the Holset and Borg turbos. Honestly, I see the Garrett technology getting bypassed in the near future unless they somehow step up their game to compete with Holset. The HX35 will outspool, outflow, and outlast a 50-trim and comes with a cheaper price tag. What's not to love?

The Evo III 16G and 20G turbos have turbine wheels that are designed to be used in a Mitsu turbine housing, unlike the Garrett wheels which are based around the full volute T3 housings. The Evo III / 20G turbos will use all of your stock water lines, and stock 1G oil supply and drain lines can be used as well.

My buddy used to run a TD05H 20G at 22psi on his full-weight '95 TSi AWD. That thing was mean on the street. With the stock cams it hit with a rush of power in the midrange that was unlike anything I ever felt.....more powerful than the Evo III 16G. On top, the stock cams didn't really let the turbo shine so he eventually went to BC0101 cams. The BC's took away some of the 20G's insane hit in exchange for a good bit of pull up top....enough to add 3mph to his trap speeds without any other mods.

 

[andy4g63]

X2 !!! But I am leaning more toward 20G. Still fast spooling and cosiderable more power than 16G.

 

[dan2288]

hmm, now im thinking about the 20g. You think a car can be reliable with a 20g on there. If I get a 20g I ###### wont even bother with cams then.

 

[Boosted_out]

For sheer reliability, the Evo III 16G or TD05H 20G. No doubt about it.

I know I LOVE my TDO5 20G! Mine is an ebay model that Justin rebuilt for me and it is going STRONG. I love this thing. It has great spool and awesome top end.

 

[JusMX141]

Absolutely reliable. The 20G's are just as bulletproof as the Evo III 16G's.

I have a nice TD05H 20G core here if you're interested- appears to have a turbine seal leaking. I obviously would perform a full rebuild before it would ever leave my shop, but I was just making the point that there is no shaft play that would lead to wheel damage and possible replacement. I believe it's set up for an external gate off the o2, but that can be changed. I have tons of actuators and different turbine housings here.

 

[GSXOverBoost]

I have an Evo III 16G, curious, how much more power can the 20g put out than the 16g? I bought the Evo3 because I heard it was a great streetable/autox turbo. It works really well, quick spoolin after corners when low in a gear.

 

[Dsmj89]

I am planning to rebuild my motor next year and im not sure as to which turbo i should go with. My goal is to make high 400's to low 500's. I am undecided as wether to get a 50 trim or 60-1 ? I was also thinking about an fp green. Any opinions ?

 

[giovanniv]

I have an Evo III 16G, curious, how much more power can the 20g put out than the 16g? I bought the Evo3 because I heard it was a great streetable/autox turbo. It works really well, quick spoolin after corners when low in a gear.

X2 I would like to know also!

 

[MaxGdsm]

I just picked up a big 16g and it bolts right up. it is reliable and i dont need to make any hardware mods to make it work. If your looking for any easy drop in turbo that will make a noticable diff that is reliable and pretty cost effective ide go with a 16 or 20g. im not the most knowledgeable but im happy with it and I would say that all my research had confirmed what everyone has said above.

if youre looking to DD it for awhile and maybe later youre looking to make it into a beast then maybe go holset etc.

 

[GSXOverBoost]

Evo 3 16G flows 550CFM good for up to 380hp

The 20g flows 650CFM good for up to 430hp

Thats what I found searching places you can buy these turbos. For the prices that I found I say 16g. Little quicker spool, but less HP, but half the cost from what I have found the 20g. For the money I think the 16g is awesome.

 

[jking29]

7 blade Holset hx35 or a Holset hx40. 500hp on a 50 trim is really pushing it. Either of the Holsets will do that power level easily. The green is also a 50 trim variant. The 60-1 will meet your goals easily enough, but it will be laggy.

 

[andy4g63]

If you got money, FP HTA88, or S256-8, if not HX-40. Period...

 

[Dsmj89]

Thanks for the input guys, i will start looking into that hx40 option.

 

[slowgsr]

The s258 would be a great choice, or i see they have s259's out and other s200 series.

Def go with the BW ET S200 series turbo, 0.70 a/r is great. You will make your power level in the mid 20psi range on pump gas with some good tuning no questions asked.

 

[Dsmj89]

Matter of fact i'm going to keep it real, i will be happy with mid-to-high 400's. I also forgot to mention i want a turbo that has a mitsu turbine housing.

 

[fwdmaster]

Matter of fact i'm going to keep it real, i will be happy with mid-to-high 400's. I also forgot to mention i want a turbo that has a mitsu turbine housing.

Go with a HX35,you can get a housing from BEP that is mitsu flanged