Tuning is NOT WORKING (WISEMEN PLEASE GIVE SOM INSIGHT)

[flinguist]

Your tuning would be much easier if you had an AFPR, and the fuel pressure set to stock. Your stock FPR is being over ran.

 

[Blk_99gst]

I ask a question and it turns into a whole bunch of shit that has nothing to do with the topic, and really no-one knows what really has to happen everyone has a opinion.

Several of us have recommended the same thing to you. You are just choosing not to hear it and not take any advice. Why...I have no idea... I'll post this again for about the 3rd time...

What else do you want from us? You obviously need to read up a LOT more about tuning. You have recommendations on what to do. Replace your o2 sensor. Turn down the boost. You're trying to push the envelope and run a 50 trim at 22psi on pump with very little tuning experience. Turn down the boost to say 16psi, and try tuning that. It will be a lot easier.

people question my judgement on my own car that i built myself,

That's great. That might say you are mechanically inclined, but when it comes to getting it to run properly and get it into tune, then you dont't know jack.

I fully understand cars and know my car like the back of my hand,

Rightttttt. Fully understand cars; then there should have been no reason for you to post this thread. And you know your car like the back of your hand; so then you meant for your car have white tip spark plugs, to get 180 miles on a tank of gas, to run with 18 counts of knock. Yep, sounds like you know what you're doing.

i even used to work at mitsu,

Scary, just scary. People tell me you did all of the mechanical work and none of the electrical/diagnostic side of things.

When someone wants to question my judgement on my own car i can already tell u that they are just guessing also.

Let's review yet again what you've told us: Wideband ratio's of 12.1:1, white tip spark plugs, lots of knock, and 180miles per tank. And your "own judgement" is telling us that you are pig rich. So let me see, which am I going to believe, your judgement/opinion, or the facts listed above.
Fine, I'll tell you what you want to hear. You're right, you must be rich. Lean that baby out at least another 10% on the safc. And keep 22psi on the 50trim. That's your answer. Let us know how that works for you. (P.S. to all other dsmtuners - I am now taking bets on how long before TalonspoolAWD blows his engine)

I even stated that the wideband was reading rich at 10

No, you stated:

WB 02 sensor it shows like 10-12.1 at WOT.

If at any time during the run (beginning, middle, end) you are hitting 12.1:1, then you are lean. But obviously you don't think so.

i only go 180 miles in 16gallons.

If you would do any type of research on your own, and you looked for the #1 reason for people getting terrible gas mileage, then you might understand that. It's been mentioned in this thread already, but yet again you refuse to listen...

The plugs could be white for many reasons that would have not had to do with me boosting the car.

Could you list some; I'd really like to hear...

I can tell you that the tuning is messed up, i am not gonna lie about that,

Oh really? What happened to the:

I fully understand cars and know my car like the back of my hand

When someone wants to question my judgement on my own car i can already tell u that they are just guessing also.

I guess that i am better off just playing with it myself because it already know that its almost IMPOSSIBLE to diagnose a persons car without being there,

No, you're better off playing with it yourself because you won't take people's recommendations and now I'm sick of hearing you complain about us being wrong and definitely don't want to help anymore. So carry on with blowing up your motor...

I have asked you at least twice for another data point that you have access to but refuse to look at or discuss...Timing. You have access to it on the data logger. So if you're timing is getting pulled severly, or to zero, or even negative, then sure you don't have a problem. Run your car with 18 counts of knock because it feels fast.

 

[TalonspoolAWD]

It maybe be ANNOYING BUT IT HELPS THE BLIND SEE!!!!!!
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[TalonspoolAWD]

WEll it looks like we have another information guy on our hands here. We all greatly apreciate your information that you have come accross from reading, and reading and READING. Maybe you might want to bring it out into the real world and try some of your opinions and sugestions and see how you really dont know shit, and that the only thing you know how to do is forward information that you have read from others having problems and what you think might be wrong. I would greatly appreciate it if you would not reply to my posts (which there will prob. not be any more of cause out of the thousands of members there is prob only 20guys that know there stuff) when you dont know what your talking about. Lets take bets on how long my "ENGINE" will last. Motors are ELECTRIC, I am supprised you dont know that since your an iformation geneous, and a smart ass at that. So why dont you leave my threads alone until you actually get hands on with the car and take them off yourself.

 

[flinguist]

Here's what Taboo Speed Shop says about tuning on set up like yours without an AFPR.http://www.taboospeedshop.com/FPR.htm

 

[kpt4321]

Thats not the issue, it's an airflow/afr issue. My car simply can't run a decent afr at 23 psi, which is what I run on pump gas, without knocking. If I lower the boost, I get slower as well. 23 PSI and about 7-9 counts is where my car like to haul ass.

If you read my damn post, you'll see that I said the same damned thing you just did.

You can't get that AFR that you want, while still having zero knock, because you're stuck changing timing AND fuel at the same time. In order to get to the AFR that you want, you knock timing so far out of whack that knock starts.

 

[kpt4321]

WEll it looks like we have another information guy on our hands here. We all greatly apreciate your information that you have come accross from reading, and reading and READING. Maybe you might want to bring it out into the real world and try some of your opinions and sugestions and see how you really dont know shit, and that the only thing you know how to do is forward information that you have read from others having problems and what you think might be wrong. I would greatly appreciate it if you would not reply to my posts (which there will prob. not be any more of cause out of the thousands of members there is prob only 20guys that know there stuff) when you dont know what your talking about. Lets take bets on how long my "ENGINE" will last. Motors are ELECTRIC, I am supprised you dont know that since your an iformation geneous, and a smart ass at that. So why dont you leave my threads alone until you actually get hands on with the car and take them off yourself.

You're a ####ing moron.

If you're going to ask a ####ing question, people are going to give you the right answer. Since most of us here (and my 5 year old cousin) are smarter than you, you're probably not going to hear the answer you want to hear.

You ####ed up, plain and simple and you *don't* know how to tune. If you know how to tune, then why are you asking us?

Either shut and and take our advice, or don't bother posting here asking questions again.

 

[L2RTSiAWD]

A good idea is not to ask for help and then tell the person that helps you that they are wrong.

If YOU are going to ask for help and YOU don't like what YOU are hearing, then ask somewhere else.