tranny fluid for a NON turbo, plus questions...

[johnnyb3]

ok, i have a NON turbo, 2.0 talon with a manual trans. i read like 50+ pages, what fluid do i put in mine? every post is about the turbo, mines not a turbo...what its doing is grinding a lil when i shift in to second and third, just bought the car, wanna change all the fluids. if i wiggle the stick, no grind...just shift, goes in but grings a lil...any ideas? thanks.

johnny

 

[duwackerTSi69]

I would honestly recomend Red Line MT-90 trans fluid. It has fixed countless dsm'rs tranny grinding issues and has more then proven itself. You can get them from Red LineRacing MT-90 Transmission Lube-SafeRacer . This should more then likely fix most of your grinding issues without having to replace trans internals?? Good luck bro

 

[TotalEclipse21]

The Mitsubishi dealership will give you the right kind. Or you can use ATF+4. Is the car your talking about a 420a or a 4g63 turbo (but without turbo for some reason). Because ATF+4 is for the New Venture Transmissions.

 

[95talongirl]

^^ yup. I was gonna say you can also run ATF +4. Chrysler also had a special fluid for the NV350; much like how mitsubishi does. You could ask for the specific fluid at the dealer if they still can get it. The redline mt-90 is great stuff, too.

 

[BlackMount]

just walk into advanced\orileys\autozone\nappa and tell them what you need it for and they will give you the right stuff.

 

[Beemer92]

running spec 4 tranny fluid will work the best. Putting new fluid into a tranny that is already grinding is gonna be a hit and miss on weather the tranny is gonna be fine or not. Be prepared for a tranny rebuild just in case.

 

[9!'clipseDOHC]

I use BG Syncro Shift 2 synthetic trans fluid and it works great! It doesn't matter if its turbo or not, its the same transmission (assuming you have a 1g).

 

[JusMX141]

I use Pennzoil Synchromesh in everything, and I change it more often than recommended because of it's thin viscosity.

I even use Synchromesh in my '97 GS even though the dealer recommends ATF+4. I figure the lubricity of the Synchromesh cannot be any worse than ATF, and my car shift so smooth with the Synchromesh in the trans that I can literally shift without the clutch more than half the time if I'm not under serious power.

 

[johnnyb3]

i did the surch thing before i posted this thread, and just put in pensoil syncromesh....still grinds in third, stoped grinding in second, and if i wait a min, and if i just put it in to first, it grinds, but if i jiggle it, no grind now, i dont think the syncro mesh is working...(but its only been a day...) should i change it out agian? or should i wait? also where can i buy redline mt? (no waiting) and its the 4g63 nt

and update, found out my slave cyl is leaking a lil...could that cuase it?

found this on redlines website...

MTL & MT-90 are not for use in differentials with hypoid gears

this is in manual
mopar Hypoind Gear oil/api classification GL4 or higher sae 75w-85w

so we shouldnt use mt 90, according to the manual its bad... and we can use gl5 becuase it says higher? im just wondering on your thoughts...

 

[tkhaab_94]

From the Haynes repair manual, It says to use MOPAR MS9417 or equivalent manual transmission fluid.

 

[DSM1G90]

I've put Redline MT-90 in a F5M22 tranny with no problems - a 1G, non-turbo tranny. Now, if you got the 420A motor with manual, you have to use Chrysler specific fluids.

GL-4 is for trannies...period.

GL-5 is a gear oil for differentials which also contains sulpher that will eat up the syncros since they are made of brass if used as a tranny oil.

-DSM

 

[One Equals Two]

and update, found out my slave cyl is leaking a lil...could that cuase it?

Yes it could cause it because you're not disengaging the transmission/engine completely. But it depends on your leak. My SRT4's cylinder leaked and it was nearly impossible to get into 1st gear without grinding (from a stop).

 

[terrydon]

what do u put in a 97 eagle talon non turbo 5-speen manual it calls for mopar ms9417 but what is equivalent manual transmission fluid for it?

 

[twicks69]

You refreshed a 2-year old thread for a different application than yours.

The OP has a 1g N/T 2.0L 4G63 w/ F5M22 transmission. It has brass synchros or organic lined brass synchros depending on model year. His application uses a recommended 75w85 or 80w90 GL4 gear oil.

If you look a bit on this site, there was a thread just this last week pertaining to 2g n/t 420a 5-speed transmissions as your transmission model is classified as a T350 aka A578 aka F5MC1. You should be using ATF+4.