Ton of oil on top of valve cover!

[darkiller_666]

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This is a new car i got. Noticed every other day oil puddles in the VC. New cap installed. I noticed while taking pics this small hole.???? Never seen it. IS it supposed to be there?

 

[cincinnati4g]

Thats odd ive never seen it before but i also havent been looking. Try doing a valve cover gasket replace with the spark plug well gaskets too. And while its off you might as well go junkyard divin and grab another valve cover. Theyre $12.95 at local junkyards around here. Oil cap could also be defective.

 

[16G1G4G63Talon]

which small hole are you referring to?

 

[boostedjay32]

Maybe ## cap leaked...or dipstick poped out or maybe a breather on the side if you have one...about that hole being there im not sure if its supposed to be there
just close it with JB WELD

 

[snowborder714]

Yes, the hole is supposed to be there. It goes through the valve cover and is used for a drain.

Could be cracked valve cover or leaking gaskets. It looks like you replaced the usual culprit (oil cap gasket) if you used a new OEM oil cap.

I'd clean up all the oil very well, start the car and let it idle. See if anything appears. If not, take it for a small drive and see if anything appears. Maybe stuff a bunch of paper towels all in the valve cover to help soak up the oil the instant it leaks out to try and localize the leak, as well as make clean up easier.

 

[housegsx]

When that happened to my car it was a cracked valve cover. It was a tiny hair-line crack that I could only see from the underside once it was removed.

 

[darkiller_666]

I am going to try the towels in the valve cover. I know its not the Oil cap, i cleaned around it very well and it remains clean even after all the oil. My other AWD has an obvious crack in the VC but doesn't leak no where near that much oil.

 

[snakeyes711]

Mine did that because the previous owner cracked the valve cover in the corner by the intake cam, and it pooled like a sive. When the engine was hot I mixed up some 5 minute j b weld, and it just melted into the crack from the heat. It didn't leak much after that. I also took it off, and checked the inside to see if it ran down inside the valve cover, but it only filled in the crack, and didn't leak through.

 

[darkiller_666]

Well after a few laps with rags all over the VC, found the crack. Corner right by the Intake cam.... Should i JB the outside and inside or one or the other.

 

[snowborder714]

If you have to, I'd do the outside. That way the JB Weld doesn't accidentally fall off at some point into your head.

But I'd say to just try and find an uncracked one.

 

[snakeyes711]

YES! for sure just do the outside. As snowboarder said, that'd be bad. I did it with the engine hot, and it flowed in like butter. Sounds like the same place mine was cracked at.

 

[victor1990]

Here is a Far-Close up picture of what's bugging me. It's a crack I JUST saw while trying to figure out why there was a line of puddle on the valve cover.

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please help me...I just replaced the Valve Cover gaskets along with the spark plug well gaskets too.

 

[Kid4g63]

That happens alot from over tightening. You can plug it with some automotive sealer, weld it, or replace the cover.

 

[snakeyes711]

yep, I had a bad crack in the same place, JB weld 5 minute to the rescue!

 

[dsmspickdad]

If you have acces to Tig welder? My thought do it right the first time JB weld is get fix only for temp. I would replace the cap gasket they get brittle and don't seal correctly. Cheap insurance. Should be able to find someone to weld the problem fairly cheap

 

[FunkDocta]

gggrrrrr I have the same exact problem in my case it floods cylinder #4 and causes me to misfire until I clean out the oil from in there. In my case it is the spark plug gasket which I changed 2 times already and it still finds a way to leak. I dont even tighten it down on that side hard anymore but the gasket still finds a way to tear apart slowly. I am just going to pick up another valve cover and see if that helps.

 

[victor1990]

Thanks a lot guys, I really appreciate the tips and help. I'm still new as everybody has been before so bare with me.

As for the valve cover, I will purchase a solid one(probably used) just to be on the safe side but for now I ###### find something to seal that crack temperarily.

 

[DSMunknown]

Others have had success with JB Weld holding up for years, but it didn't work for me with mine.

As for the OP, I'm with Brian - cracked VC or the gaskets. Use only the Permatex Ultra lineup with the new gaskets (such as this one ---> http://www.permatex.com/products/Au..._Oil_Resistance_RTV_Silicone_Gasket_Maker.htm).

 

[FunkDocta]

I am going to try some gasket sealer later tomorrow as a temporary fix. Suck having a pool of oil in one of your cylinders every week.

 

[Backinajiffy12]

"Darkiller" I would check your your spark plug valve cover gaskets. I had the same problem and I chaged those out and it fixed the problem.

 

[Griffeclipsed98]

if you decide to get a new cover, when you put it on use a torque wrench and torque no more than 16ft lbs. to every bolt. and start in the middle and work your way out.

 

[snowborder714]

if you decide to get a new cover, when you put it on use a torque wrench and torque no more than 16ft lbs. to every bolt. and start in the middle and work your way out.

Whoa! That'll surely do some damage, as the valve cover bolts only have a torque spec of 2.5 ft.lbs.

 

[DSMunknown]

At absolute most you'll use a socket screwdriver, and hand tighten of course. Not a friggin' torque wrench. Unless you use an in/lb wrench. But I doubt that's what he meant, 'cause he'd still be off about 14 in.lb. For more info, read the following thread.


http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/app...over-gasket-merged-7-9-a-8.html#post151054365

 

[housegsx]

^Agreed! The best thing to do is just hand tighten it with a screw driver very lightly, let it sit for a couple hours, repeat. The rubber compresses easily and the bolts go loose again shortly. I had to retighten mine about 4 times before it was properly torqued. And by torqued, I mean very lightly.

 

[snowborder714]

I have used a torque wrench set to 30 in.lbs. but it just didn't feel tight enough. So I just go with it by hand working my way around in a somewhat inside to outside start pattern until they feel tight by hand. I usually end up going over the valve cover at least a half dozen times until they feel tight enough. I do mine all in one shot unlike Erik mentioned above. I have allen head bolts so I can't put quite as much force on them with the allen wrench vs. a socket wrench.