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If you haven't been into DSM's for a while you should get a stock one. That guy was BSing. His ad said it had a top speed of 160, and did 0-60mph in 4.5sec yet he said he never raced the car. He made that up to make it appealing to someone who wants to buy a fast car, and has money burning a hole in their pocket. Also, he said it is a motor built to handle 500hp, but all that he has on the Sac. DSM profile is ARP headstuds, and a metal headgasket. The transmission is most likely on its way out if it had trouble going into gear, and who knows until they buy it what other problems it has.
 
Zmann42087 said:
Thats too bad. It looked decent from the links. But you're doing the right thing in being patient and not buying something you're not completely happy with. Just be patient and the right DSM will come along.

Happy searching! :thumb:




Assuming the previous owner was competent and knew what he was doing, buying an already modded car will be a hell of a lot cheaper than building it yourself. Again, thats a big "if" assuming that the previous owner did the needed maintenance first, didn't half-ass any of the work, didn't abuse the car, etc.
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That's exactly why I want one thats already built. I thought about buying a nice stock one and building it, but if I can find one that's done right and save thousands of dollars then why not? plus there's the instant gratification of having a car that's already fast. And of course there's gonna be things I'm going to change to suit what I want out of the car so I'm going to take it apart and learn things about them and all that fun stuff.

I know I can find cars out there that are built by meticulous owners like myself that do things the way they should be done, and that's what I want. Then I'll change things up as I see fit, break shit and rebuild it stronger and better.

Also, I could kind of tell the guy was full of shit, who advertises a cars top speed and 0-60 times in a craigslist ad? Gimme a break. But I figured I'd still check it out. The car does have some good parts on it, but I think it definately needs a tranny soon and probably an engine rebuild. Along with the proper tuning parts along with someone to tune it.

So that's where I'm at.. hehe I am pretty excited about these cars though:dsm::thumb:
 
Now I don't want to sound like the bearer of bad news, but while I am new to this site, I'm not new to DSM's. If I were you, I would look for a car that was more stock *IE. minor bolt-on's*. I personally bought a stock dsm when I got into the scene *I left hondas* and Believe that I have learned more from that. The car is a dsm..it WILL BREAK. It could be something like the alternator, yet it could be something big. If you don't know whats wrong it could cost you.

Also a car with a built motor, and he wants to tell you he's never beaten on it. Who the hell would build a motor thats capable of handling 500 horsepower if they weren't beating on it. Are you certain he broke th motor in the right way? These are just little things to consider. But whatever you decide, be smart, and don't jump on the fastest car you see.
- mike
 
Evil04c said:
Now I don't want to sound like the bearer of bad news, but while I am new to this site, I'm not new to DSM's. If I were you, I would look for a car that was more stock *IE. minor bolt-on's*. I personally bought a stock dsm when I got into the scene *I left hondas* and Believe that I have learned more from that. The car is a dsm..it WILL BREAK. It could be something like the alternator, yet it could be something big. If you don't know whats wrong it could cost you.

Also a car with a built motor, and he wants to tell you he's never beaten on it. Who the hell would build a motor thats capable of handling 500 horsepower if they weren't beating on it. Are you certain he broke th motor in the right way? These are just little things to consider. But whatever you decide, be smart, and don't jump on the fastest car you see.
- mike
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^^^ YES!
I got my car for 5k. It had 86k on it, the body was in great shape and only had minor bolt ons. BUT it wasn't taken care of. Even though it seemed like I was getting a good deal, I ended up putting about 12k into it (after I got it). Just remember, if it seems too good to be true (i.e. 500hp on a car that wasn't abused) it probably isn't. It's a sad fact of life. Do your research (like your doing by posting on this site) and you will end up more happy than not.

Good luck on your car quest. These cars changed my life for the better. Hope you get the same experience. :dsm::talon::laser:
 
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vinnio said:
^^^ YES!
I got my car for 5k. It had 86k on it, the body was in great shape and only had minor bolt ons. BUT it wasn’t taken care of. Even though it seemed like I was getting a good deal, I ended up putting about 12k into it (after I got it). Just remember, if it seems too good to be true (i.e. 500hp on a car that wasn’t abused) it probably isn’t. It’s a sad fact of life. Do your research (like your doing by posting on this site) and you will end up more happy than not.

Good luck on your car quest. These cars changed my life for the better. Hope you get the same experience. :dsm::talon::laser:
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Yep I replaced the trans, changed the plugs and wires, changed the ecu, alternator, switched turbos, blew a head gasket. All *for the most part* minor things. On a pretty much stock car mind you. But ya built is a different story. The only guy I personally know that drives a built DSM everyday..is a mechanic.
 
Evil04c said:
Now I don't want to sound like the bearer of bad news, but while I am new to this site, I'm not new to DSM's. If I were you, I would look for a car that was more stock *IE. minor bolt-on's*. I personally bought a stock dsm when I got into the scene *I left hondas* and Believe that I have learned more from that. The car is a dsm..it WILL BREAK. It could be something like the alternator, yet it could be something big. If you don't know whats wrong it could cost you.

Also a car with a built motor, and he wants to tell you he's never beaten on it. Who the hell would build a motor thats capable of handling 500 horsepower if they weren't beating on it. Are you certain he broke th motor in the right way? These are just little things to consider. But whatever you decide, be smart, and don't jump on the fastest car you see.
- mike
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That is what I tell everyone who looks at getting an already hopped up anything. You dont know what they did with it.
 
Comon guys, reply to my post.......





Nelsons91AWD said:
Thinking about picking this car up

1995 Eagle Talon TSI AWD 5 Speed Completely Stock. Owner says there are absolutely NO PROBLEMS with it.

has 142,000 Miles on the Odometer, owner says timing belt was done just before he bought it at 130,000 Miles, also its a southern car so there isnt rust!

How much is this car worth? what would you pay?? what should i pay??? (assuming the compression test checks out) He is asking 4,000 for it. THANKS :thumb: If i buy it i will be the Fourth owner....

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Since my thread was closed, I am gonna post it here.

95 Talon TSI. FWD. New clutch, struts, muffler, FMIC, air filter, hood, eclipse wing (lo deck) and he replaced all the timing and ignition stuff when he got it. It has 149XXX miles, but since he has had it he has driven it very nice. He has less than 3k into it. What should I offer him? He is my friend so I dont wanna rip him off, but I know how much he has in it so I have kinda a base. I was thinkin like 3300?
 
Ok, no "racing muffler" jokes this time, please.

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2252199

What are some issues I should be aware of? How will I tell if there is one of those issues? I have read the buying guide, but I want to know what are some issues that I might run into with these mods.

Also, my friend Ronnie says that with an FMIC, bigger injectors, a bigger fuel pump, and some other mods, it will easily push 350 HP. Any truth to this?
 
I'm no HEAD master but I don't think there is such a thing as a 4 angle valve job, I know for sure there is a 3 and 5 but 4. Somebody please correct me if i am wrong. His use of the word header is questionable of his knowledge of dsm's or turbos. I also forgot to add in that I like the way he painted the manifold and valve cover to look old ans stock like. Other than that, thats a very nice looking car I would inspect before I buy it.
 
well there is know way that the 14b turbo that is on there will get you 350 hp. And theres no reason for the safc if he is on stock injectors. So also you might ask about that. And try the trans out because most 1g's trans arent very good.
 
Well i'm not sure how much u wanna pay for it but it looks like a decent kept car and with another grand on it im sure u can get to around 300 hp, with a new 16g, larger injectors and fmic, cause it seems like the car already has the afrc with the logger:thumb:
 
winterftbl said:
well there is know way that the 14b turbo that is on there will get you 350 hp. And theres no reason for the safc if he is on stock injectors. So also you might ask about that. And try the trans out because most 1g's trans arent very good.
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Oh ya, Ronnie said a 16G also. But I am not gonna dump money into this when I buy it. I will drive it how it is.
JDM trans and t-case mated to an XTD stage 2 clutch
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Isnt JDM Japanese, better than stock, parts?

Ronnie also said he was planning on putting an FMIC on it. I am gonna see if he still has it. If he does I am gonna tell him to leave it off to get the price down.
 
JDM means "Japanese Domestic Market", which just means "It's BONE-STOCK for Japan."

DSM's are in no way JDM. Galant VR4's yes. Evo's yes. DSM's no. So it may have an Evo or Galant transmission, that's possible. It would be best to find out exactly what transmission it has in case you need to repair it.
 
I might be able to check it out before work tomorrow. If not tomorrow then the second Saturday in November.
 
I understand that. I remember he said that it would also need a 16G to get it up in the power.
 
Looks decent if the price is right. The main thing is a clean title, rust etc... I personally would try to stay away from a modded car unless I knew who it was coming from but if its clean and you think its worth it go for it. Good Luck!
 
Well, I dont consider the mods that sufficient. I mean, how many of those mods really add power and decrease reliability?. And it was owned by a mid aged white male who has a kid. I dont think he really romped on it.
 
The pace setter header is a POS. I have one sitting on my shelf, you'd do well to replace it when you can.

The BOV is not recirculated, do that when you can too.
 
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