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2G T3/T4 install

Posted by dgarnett02, Apr 10, 2019

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  1. dgarnett02

    dgarnett02 Probationary Member

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    Hello everyone,
    My buddy is selling me a t3t4e and I’m planing on buying it. I was wondering what support mods I would be needing. The mods I have already are a ARP head studs and bolts, FMIC, wastegate, BOV, Manifold w/ t3t4 turbo flange, 800cc injectors, and exhast. Am I still missing anything? Or am I good to go!
     

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  2. Canadian_CD9A

    Canadian_CD9A Proven Member

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    If it's not a name-brand T3/T04E, don't even bother. If it's a true Garrett turbo, you'll need (at least) this:

    3" intake to turbo inlet
    Fabricate a new turbo outlet pipe to the intercooler
    5-bolt o2 housing (essentially custom fabricating a whole downpipe)
    Aftermarket external wastegate with dump tube (don't use yours if it's ebay-level)
    Better T3 manifold (those ebay T3/T4 manifolds are junk)
    Oil feed & drain lines & fittings
    Bigger fuel pump
    Adjustable FPR
    Tuning solution (ECMLink?)
     
  3. gdb1039

    gdb1039 Proven Member

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    I wouldn't even run a T3/T4 these days. There are better turbo options out now that have better spooling characteristic. What is your house power goals for the car and what are you planning to use it for?
     

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  4. dgarnett02

    dgarnett02 Probationary Member

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    My buddy (very reliable) is selling it to me for only 200 so it’s a steal. My goals for the moment are in the 400 range. I would like to run high psi as well.
     
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  5. dgarnett02

    dgarnett02 Probationary Member

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    Thank you for the awesome list, I’ll be sure to get on these parts right away!
     

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  6. motomattx

    motomattx Proven Member

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    What turbo is it? T3/T4 wont tell anybody much, it could be just about any size and the mods needed to support it will depend on the wheel sizes.
     

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  7. ThunderChild

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    If the turbo is an eBay one, 200 is ridiculous. Before you buy, get us pics, measurements, build tags etc. Whatever you can provide, because currently it sounds like your "buddy" might be ripping you off because you're not as familiar with these things.

    The list @Canadian_CD9A is pretty comprehensive, the most important part being a TUNING SOLUTION. Without this, all the mods you have, and all the future mods will have little to no value, nor anywhere near their full potential.
     

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  8. Canadian_CD9A

    Canadian_CD9A Proven Member

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    +1, it does sound like your buddy is ripping you off.

    Going with something like an FP Green will actually save you money and perform better.
     
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  9. streetraceboi

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    It sounds like you may need new friends LOL
     
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  10. Mello

    Mello Proven Member

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    I looked over your profile. I consider just keeping the MHI E16G (if it's really a MHI E16G) for a street build & use the cash for other mods & maintenance. Really fun turbo for a street build as well as a DD.
     
  11. OLDDOOD

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    There are so many different combinations of wheels and housings that make up a T3/T4 turbo, the number is rather difficult to compute. You can have a T3/T4 that spools like a 16G, or have it spool like a huge lag monster. All depends on the components. I would stay away from your buddies turbo, because it sounds like you don't have a clue what it actually is. You might be severely disappointed in its performance.

    The FP Green definitely won't save him any money over an authentic T3/T4 50 trim. They aren't cheap. The Green's appeal is that it is basically a bolt on turbo. The Green will spool slightly quicker, but won't quite have the top end of of the T3/T4 unit. I had a Green many moons ago and I loved that thing. I ran 11.50's on 93 pump gas, on an OEM ECU and an AFC. The car was a lot of fun back then!
     
  12. motomattx

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    Dont we ALL?
     

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    If yiu need quality parts shoot me a DM With what you need and I’ll get you the best pricing, we are an FP dealer, as well as sell all the top brands for almost what ever you could possibly need. Let us know happy to help!
     

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  14. dgarnett02

    dgarnett02 Probationary Member

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    I will get pictures the next time i see him, but i can assure you he isn't ripping me off. He's my best friend and i've known him for like 7 years.
     

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  15. dgarnett02

    dgarnett02 Probationary Member

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    This turbo is authentic, the reason its so cheep is because the seller is my best friend.
     

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  16. dgarnett02

    dgarnett02 Probationary Member

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    ill be sure to if i ever need anything
     

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  17. ThunderChild

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    That's fair, I'd just consider all the aspects as well before diving in, there's alot of stuff that would need to change besides just the turbo.

    I'm just leary of ppl, I've had two "best friends" of over 10 years totally hose me over a couple times, so I tend to not really trust anyone regardless of how long I've known them.
     

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  18. dgarnett02

    dgarnett02 Probationary Member

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    I’m sorry to hear that man, Thanks for expressing your concerns. I’ll be sure to keep them in mind!
     

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