Supercharged, need a Missing link?

[Zendude]

I apologize, its just I saw someone else doing a similiar project and got a little excited. What I fogot to mention is that I look foward to following this thread and seeing what he does and what kind of issues he runs into. I hope to do a little more learning from his experiences on his project.

 

[goodtimes]

I apologize, its just I saw someone else doing a similiar project and got a little excited. What I fogot to mention is that I look foward to following this thread and seeing what he does and what kind of issues he runs into. I hope to do a little more learning from his experiences on his project.

Don't worry. I'm sure your install will be a blast. One thing though...who says I'm a guy...?


HA HA HA HA!!!!! Had you goin' for a second! I'll bet every guy on this board started drooling! The perfect woman......Oh well

Don't worry, I will be here often. I'm not going to put a timeline on the build though. It'll be done in due time. I'll be starting on the location and bracket fabrication first this weekend. Once I figure out the exact location of the SC I'll have to run to the junkyard to find some bracketry that I can fab it up with.

 

[Strife]

Sounds like a great project, I will be following this.
Just out of curiosity, are you CNC machining the adapter plate between the blower and the intake ports on the head? Or are you planning on welding up a custom plenum that the blower will mount on. Or maybe something else completely.

 

[goodtimes]

You'll see!! I'm 90% positive where I want to put it and how it will be installed. I'll be test fitting this weekend. I have alot of work ahead of me!!

 

[napkinthief]

I thought about supercharging when I had my 96 rs.

I went turbo route because there just was more information about it. If I get another n/a dsm I will try supercharger.

Id like to add to the list of things you need for the install.

Someone had previously posted:

Eaton M45 or M62 (used) - $160
Piping (to go from SC to intake) - $20
BOV (Your choice) - $10-100
FCD - $80
FPR - $80-150
Water injection kit (only needed if you intend on running lower than 92 octane gas or higher levels of boost without an intercooler) - $150-300

That may work, but you also need a fuel pump (255 walbro is your best option), boost gauge, some new sized belts, and I would definetly run WITH an intercooler. Even a small sidemount will yeild a lot more hp than just a straight pipe from the supercharger to the intake.

I got my front mount intercooler with pipes, bov, boost controller and all the clamps and couplers for 255$. Great deal to me. I smashed it against my curb when I got home one night and the bottom 2 rows of the intercooler were crushed, and the intercooler still didn't leak so thats some good quality to me. I found the deal off of ebay, the seller is no longer on ebay.

FCD for 80$ is a little pricey, you can find them used from 30-60 easily. There are even members of this community that will make them for you. Search around and you will find who makes em. Cheap too.


I am not sure if you are keeping how you want to mount the supercharger secret, but will you be removing your power steering or a/c? That was a major concern for me when I was thinking about this route. I definetly didn't want to lose the a/c because summers here are too hot. I need power steering because I will never be able to parallel park with no power steering. Or maybe you have a method to keep both and still be able to mount a supercharger. If you do, then let me know and write up a guide when you are done so the information from your project will be spread around.

Let me say this, good luck with the project, and I hope it does turn out well.

And not to turn this into a bench race or anything, I would say a supercharged 420a engine at 7-8 psi would give you around 200 hp intercooled. Give or take 15 hp. The torque will be fun though.

 

[420Adriver]

There was a guy on ebay that had a SC kit for our car on ebay a while ago (i think there was only like 150 made or something like that).

 

[goodtimes]

Someone had previously posted:

Eaton M45 or M62 (used) - $160
Piping (to go from SC to intake) - $20
BOV (Your choice) - $10-100
FCD - $80
FPR - $80-150
Water injection kit (only needed if you intend on running lower than 92 octane gas or higher levels of boost without an intercooler) - $150-300

That was me.

That may work, but you also need a fuel pump (255 walbro is your best option), boost gauge, some new sized belts, and I would definetly run WITH an intercooler. Even a small sidemount will yeild a lot more hp than just a straight pipe from the supercharger to the intake

I really appreciate your putting thought into the build, but just to clarify the subject for those who are just kind of "looking into" SC'ing their car let me make a point here. At the boost levels I am going to run on this engine, an intercooler and the added piping would actually reduce power both in volumetric efficiency (airflow) and charge. At 6-8 psi, delivered by the SC, the heat will not effect the power output of the engine in any major way. I may need a fuel pump though.

I am not sure if you are keeping how you want to mount the supercharger secret, but will you be removing your power steering or a/c? That was a major concern for me when I was thinking about this route. I definetly didn't want to lose the a/c because summers here are too hot. I need power steering because I will never be able to parallel park with no power steering. Or maybe you have a method to keep both and still be able to mount a supercharger. If you do, then let me know and write up a guide when you are done so the information from your project will be spread around.

It isn't a secret, but I won't post any info on it until it is installed and working properly. No bunk info will be passing my lips. When I am done, I will post on the results and try to help anyone who REALLY wants to SC their car too. However, I'm not here to answer every question posted on the subject. You MUST do your research and have a good understanding of the subject before expecting an in depth conversation. The list of parts I made needed for the build stands. I don't plan on making ANY major changes to the engine bay.

Let me say this, good luck with the project, and I hope it does turn out well.

And not to turn this into a bench race or anything, I would say a supercharged 420a engine at 7-8 psi would give you around 200 hp intercooled. Give or take 15 hp. The torque will be fun though.

Thank you for your encouragement.

It might sound like I am trying to contradict at least one thing you have said in every paragragh of your entire post, but I am purposely staying away from any talk of power. As you can see in other rides on this board, putting 8psi to the engine can result in a WIDE variance of output. So many things to put into the calculation. Let's just see how it turns out everybody.

 

[tegster1]

This is very interesting to read all this. I was curious though as to if the supercharger would be more reliable than going with a turbocharger? There seems to be a lot less parts to it which seems like it would help with reliability. The price also seems VERY nice compared with a turbo kit for quite a bit more. I was going to just keep my N/T simple and driveable but this idea is very intriguing.

 

[VelocitàPaola]

The design of a basic supercharger system seems pretty simple, but the lack of commercialized support means the project will be much more labor intensive because of all the fabrication required. If you aren't handy with a welder, mill, lathe, drill press, etc.., then you can expect to pay just as much, if not more, for a supercharger system than a turbosystem.

 

[slipstream808]

Not to be a NaySayer, but what about traction issues? Do you think with a FWD that might be a problem?

All in all though I REALLY hope this works and gives you great results. Best of luck in this endeavor!!

Oh, and pics/vids!!

 

[Lenn]

So... Anymore updates on the fab process or install process?? This thread peaked my curiosity.