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Start up and Idle log advice (V3)

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projekt1

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Nov 21, 2006
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Need advice on both start up and idle log.

Thanks

Edit: 1st log is Start up (notice had to start her up 3 times). 2nd log is idle, warmed up.
 

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I did some adjustments to the idle but I'm not sure if I'm headed in the right direction.
 

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1. Only make adjustments to either the sliders or the DA tables (in your case, the Timing stuff). If you make changes to both, you could get yourself running in circles trying to figure out issues since they both are taken into account.
2. Your CombinedFT is way out of whack. This video will help you get it down around 0%.
http://www.ecmtuning.com/demos/fueltrim.html
3. Your ISC position is very out of whack. You'll want to look into that and see if it's something as simple as adjusting the BISS or if it's bad.
4. I would try to make the TmngMaxOct table changes smoother. Instead of having it skip 2-3 degrees sometimes, work on smoothing it out to hit most numbers.
5. Looks like you're running rich on idle as your numbers are around 12.5:1. You want to be around 14.7:1.
6. Does your AEM logged value match the gauge? If not, that'll need to be addressed. And you'll need to do some airflow tuning at idle to get it to match the AFRatioEst value.
 
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1. Only make adjustments to either the sliders or the DA tables (in your case, the Timing stuff). If you make changes to both, you could get yourself running in circles trying to figure out issues since they both are taken into account.
2. Your CombinedFT is way out of whack. This video will help you get it down around 0%.
http://www.ecmtuning.com/demos/fueltrim.html
3. Your ISC position is very out of whack. You'll want to look into that and see if it's something as simple as adjusting the BISS or if it's bad.
4. I would try to make the TmngMaxOct table changes smoother. Instead of having it skip 2-3 degrees sometimes, work on smoothing it out to hit most numbers.
5. Looks like you're running rich on idle as your numbers are around 12.5:1. You want to be around 14.7:1.
6. Does your AEM logged value match the gauge? If not, that'll need to be addressed. And you'll need to do some airflow tuning at idle to get it to match the AFRatioEst value.

Thanks for the advice :D/
1. Ill stick to the sliders until i get promoted:p.
2. I had seen that video several times, for some reason it stuck today :thumb:.
3. ISC look better now? I plugged it as well.
4. Still confused on this part. Maybe everything else changed it?
5. Look better?
6. The AEM UEGO digital display does NOT match what is being logged. Its 1-2 digits off. How do I go about geting Airflow Tunning done?

Thanks for the help Brian!!

Edit: Is that much deadtime ok?
 

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I focused on three things:

1. I played with the MAF Comp sliders to get the AirflowPerRev to stay around .24-.28 g/rev
2. Unscrewed the BISS about 2 full turns for the ISCPosition to stay at 30 (+/-5).
3. Significantly increased deadtime from about 380 to what it is at now to get CombinedFT to be at 0% (+/-8%)

Now does it look good/ ok for my setup? What more adjustments can I make to fine tune (if needed) my idle? Anything else I need to focus on now?
 
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1. For the AEM issue - aemwb [ECMTuning - wiki]
2. What do you mean by "I plugged it as well" in regard to the ISC. Plugged it...in?
3. If you look at the TmngMaxOctane table, say 4000-6000 RPM. You double your timing degrees (8-16*) in 5 columns. You should be moving every column up by 1*, and not skipping from 9 to 11* or 13 to 16*
4. Airflow tuning is done using the MAFComp sliders. Get your logged wideband value matching the gauge and see where you're at. If you're around 14.7 on the gauge, then you won't need much adjustment.

Everything else looks pretty good.
 
What do you have selected as your wideband in the setup? For my aem uego to match readings on the gauge and what was being logged I had to select AEMwidebandR1 in the dropdown.


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1. For the AEM issue - aemwb [ECMTuning - wiki]
2. What do you mean by "I plugged it as well" in regard to the ISC. Plugged it...in?
3. If you look at the TmngMaxOctane table, say 4000-6000 RPM. You double your timing degrees (8-16*) in 5 columns. You should be moving every column up by 1*, and not skipping from 9 to 11* or 13 to 16*
4. Airflow tuning is done using the MAFComp sliders. Get your logged wideband value matching the gauge and see where you're at. If you're around 14.7 on the gauge, then you won't need much adjustment.

Everything else looks pretty good.

1. Working on it.
2. I plugged the little niple above the BISS
3. I'll have to play with that then
4.Working on it too..

Thanks!

What do you have selected as your wideband in the setup? For my aem uego to match readings on the gauge and what was being logged I had to select AEMwidebandR1 in the dropdown.


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Yep that what I have it as too

I did a few cruise logs and pulls within those logs.. Let me know if its any better.
 

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Does your logged wideband and gauge now match up? If it's not, it's a bit hard to really evaluate your logs.

As I mentioned before, pick sliders or DA table. I would suggest making one zerod out/stock and only working with the other. Right now, you have adjustments in both.

Most of the other values look just fine, and I don't see anything to worry about.
 
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