Spacers for GSX wheels on a GST

[snowborder714]

No, they aren't. Two totally different wheels.

Even in the 3g Broshure, there is no wheel avail. that accurately matches the 2g GSX. OP in fact has 3rd Gen GTS Wheels.

Well, then at some point, 3g's had come with the same exact wheel that was on the 2g GSX's. The part number (old - MR761490, superseded by MN101081HA) shows up for both D33A and D53A models. There is another part number for the same style wheel (which is Type EK in ASA) which is MR589662, so maybe there's the difference.

However, all 3 wheels are 17x6.5 +46, so it must be looks/construction that differs.

Really? I have both and they are identical next to each other. I've never seen a different Knuckle on any year 2g.

I'm not the only one to have noticed this. I tried my Evo 8 wheels on my car ('95 GST) and my brother's car ('99 GSX) and there was about 4-5mm more clearance on his car between the tire and knuckle.

I have another set of knuckles that I'll be installing that are 2gb, so I plan on installing one knuckle and then grabbing clearance measurements between the two to see the actual difference.



Oh ya, we're still waiting for the OP to post info about the two wheels...

 

[Pipnorcali]

I'm running a 2ga fwd with 17x7 225/50 no probs.

 

[PieEyedPiper]

Don't complicate the matter. As we've said again and again, and as snowboarder further outlined, 2g gsx wheels and 3g wheels, for all intents and purposes, are the same. There is a difference in the knuckles between some years/months, but it shouldn't be the cause of the OP's difficulties. And yes, many have run such sized wheel/tire combos and larger with success.
I just want to OP to come back and post rather than see another very long, drawn out, picture illustrated, "me too" type post.

 

[pauleyman]

How about this. If that car was aligned what were the before and after specs? Were those washers not added by the previous owner, but by the alignment shop trying to correct the camber of a bent knuckle. Are the washers on both sides? Just a thought. I still think it has to be a wheel bearing or a bent knuckle. The differences in knuckles shouldn't matter but I was surprised to find many different part numbers for the knuckles over the years.

 

[InfiniteGSX]

Yeah no, I've also ran way in my past 17x7 225/50's with no rubbing. 17x8.5 +30 on 245's. The 19x8.5's on 245's, Currently 18x9 225/45's. The 18x9's have over an inch of gap from the tire to the knuckle.

Snowboarder, I Did not know that. I have a 95 GST in my driveway I'm chopping up and the knuckles are the same. Maybe if its a couple mm's of difference, I don't have that good of vision. But in any case should not cause any issues OP is having.

Bent Knuckle.

 

[snowborder714]

Snowboarder, I Did not know that. I have a 95 GST in my driveway I'm chopping up and the knuckles are the same. Maybe if its a couple mm's of difference, I don't have that good of vision. But in any case should not cause any issues OP is having.

Correct. The only reason it was brought up was the OP was saying his Talon's rear end was different from my Eclipse, so I pointed out the only difference I know in the rear ends of these cars that would have any affect on wheel/tire fitment.

 

[InfiniteGSX]

How about this. If that car was aligned what were the before and after specs? Were those washers not added by the previous owner, but by the alignment shop trying to correct the camber of a bent knuckle. Are the washers on both sides? Just a thought. I still think it has to be a wheel bearing or a bent knuckle. The differences in knuckles shouldn't matter but I was surprised to find many different part numbers for the knuckles over the years.

It is a possibility that the camber adjustments were due to a bent knuckle. The car could have been hit here, which would cause massive camber, and instead of replacing the damaged knuckle, they adjusted the camber with longer bolts and washers to get away with a good paying job. Then told the owner at the time that the damage is repaired. Prob even showed him a receipt proving the work. But the owner at the time was non the wiser.

IF this be the case, OP if you decide you wanna swap knuckles, Myself as well as thousands of others on this site will have these parts for sale. Junk yards are an easy find. All 2g's were technically the same, be it AWD or FWD. BUT, if you do this, you might notice extreme positive camber so you will have to remove those washers and get shorter bolts (not sure if the longer bolts will fit or if they will just move on through)

 

[Eagle96TalonTSi]

I compared the 3G wheels to the 2g GSX wheels today and they look very similar but are actually VERY different. The spokes on the 2g GSX wheels are more straight from the center to the outer rim. The 3g wheels spokes are more rounded and dome shaped to the outer rim.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvlPUcX0xiQ]3G wheels don't fit.. - YouTube[/ame]

All of you saying they are the same rim - Idiots. They are different.

All of you saying there is something wrong with my control arms/knuckles? ... - Idiots.
I had 3 rear knuckles and 2 rear control arms sitting around that I compared directly. Unless theyre ALLLLLL ####ed up, then there is nothing wrong with my rear end.

All of you saying 3g wheels fit on a 2g TSi w/ bigger wheels than what I previously posted - IDIOTS.

Here is a vid. I inspected all of the components and compared it directly to my FSM, everything is exactly as it should be, minus the washers - Which will not effect wheel clearance.

Heres the vid - Hope you guys are all happy and dandy with your THEORIES. Thats all they are, THEORIES. So when someone tells you that your shit doesnt make sense, dont get all BUTT HURT.

This is a great website and all, but without seeing a car in front of you, you cannot ARGUE with someone about what you think is right ALL OF THE TIME... There is a difference between REAL WORLD APPLICATION and THEORY OF APPLICATION..

Good news is I sold my car for 5300$ today ))))

AWD Here I come

 

[jtmcinder]

I look forward to trying to help you again.

 

[Diamond Star Werks]

^ my thoughts exactly

 

[Arnie]

I compared the 3G wheels to the 2g GSX wheels today and they look very similar but are actually VERY different. The spokes on the 2g GSX wheels are more straight from the center to the outer rim. The 3g wheels spokes are more rounded and dome shaped to the outer rim.

3G wheels don't fit.. - YouTube

All of you saying they are the same rim - Idiots. They are different.

All of you saying there is something wrong with my control arms/knuckles? ... - Idiots.
I had 3 rear knuckles and 2 rear control arms sitting around that I compared directly. Unless theyre ALLLLLL ####ed up, then there is nothing wrong with my rear end.

All of you saying 3g wheels fit on a 2g TSi w/ bigger wheels than what I previously posted - IDIOTS.

Here is a vid. I inspected all of the components and compared it directly to my FSM, everything is exactly as it should be, minus the washers - Which will not effect wheel clearance.

Heres the vid - Hope you guys are all happy and dandy with your THEORIES. Thats all they are, THEORIES. So when someone tells you that your shit doesnt make sense, dont get all BUTT HURT.

This is a great website and all, but without seeing a car in front of you, you cannot ARGUE with someone about what you think is right ALL OF THE TIME... There is a difference between REAL WORLD APPLICATION and THEORY OF APPLICATION..

Good news is I sold my car for 5300$ today ))))

AWD Here I come

that video was hilarious!!!!

 

[Tyeler18]

I love how this guy's all trying to talk shit on people for trying to help his dumb-ass, when he's the one that SWEARS the talon is a different chassis than an eclipse.

We'll see if your know-it-all self gets much help from anyone here.

 

[phunny]

Although he's a tool and his friend is a moron, "it's not, when it lowers is the problem." Oh yes toolbag, that's exactly right .

The rim doesn't fit though, so?...

 

[Eagle96TalonTSi]

Oh noes no theories to help me with my super complicated problemz?!

See you guys talk all this shit and then when I make a video that makes you feel stupid and you get all booty hurt because none of you were right, but that's okay. There's still dsmtalk, dsmnation, dsmalliance, dallasdsm, ECT ECT ECT ECT ECT OH AND ECT.

Not to mention I'm about to put 12 grand of my hard earned money down on a 2005 evo that I'm gonna keep BONE stock and drive to ####ing CANADA if I wanna!

As if there could not have been anymore butthole chafing... Suddenly you've become extremely uncomfortable sitting in your computer chairs. :0

Trolls unite! Tell me how you're car pros and I'm a noob.

Any noobs reading this, let me give you REAL advice that's going to help you solve ANY problem you'll ever have with your dsm..

1. Go buy a wrench
2. Start taking shit apart
3. Put it back together

Stop worrying about your post count and go work on your ####ing cars you ###gots

PEACE!

Although he's a tool and his friend is a moron, "it's not, when it lowers is the problem." Oh yes toolbag, that's exactly right .

The rim doesn't fit though, so?...

Idk why he said that. He was there the last time I tried to put the wheels on. They touched before and after lowering the jack.

BUTT HURTS!
UNITE!

Hahahahahahaha

 

[Tyeler18]

please, I've owned/built more dsms than you've probably seen in person.

Considering a few people have already stated they fit 3g wheels on there with no problems.

Also, I do recall you swearing there was something different between the 2ga and 2gb and fwd and awd suspensions, again WRONG along with your chassis "theory." But tell us how we know nothing about them, while you're looking for driveshafts and axles that will fit your longer and wider talon.

I do also recall I said the gsx and 3g wheels are different, just wasn't sure what was different on them. But keep trying to talk like your 16 year old self knows what he's doing. I'll continue driving all of my dsms because they're not hack-job cars.

 

[Eagle96TalonTSi]

I look forward to trying to help you again.

Oh you tried to help me?

My bad. I guess I took your comments the wrong way.

Wait a sec, you didn't try to help at all. Just annoying comments that make you sound like a stuck up ####head that sits behind a computer screen flexing his e peen because his shit says 5k posts and "dsm wiseman".

Thanks for playing, but the problem is tire-knuckle contact.

Perfect example - YOU ARE A GIANT DOUCHE BAG

 

[JusMX141]

The vulgarity and offensive remarks shall cease right now. That's two infractions for the last two posts made by the O.P.- one more and you get a two week vacation at the minimum...so keep it up.

 

[snowborder714]

Oh you tried to help me?

My bad. I guess I took your comments the wrong way.

Wait a sec, you didn't try to help at all.

I count two posts of him trying to help by asking for wheel offset info. But you chose to ignore those posts, mine that requested the same info, and probably a few others. Your choice.

Now you've solved the problem in a round about hack way and have moved on. Again, your choice.



Oh, and quit the name calling. Just because you provided absolutely no actual data for anyone in here to use other than a video showing what you've been saying since post one (which actually doesn't show us anything useful) doesn't mean you're allowed to go act all high and mighty, thinking you're better than everyone else. Next flaming comment will earn you a vacation.

 

[Eagle96TalonTSi]

^ key word "data"

I do not give a damn about what DATA you have. I had the car physically sitting in front of my face. If you guys spent as much time working on your cars as you do trolling these forums you could probably take your car apart and put it back together BLINDFOLDED.

And ask me if I care if I get a "vacation" from these forums. I'll be on evom from now on

 

[snowborder714]

You're right. I've owned my car since 2006, have a brother who's owned one since 2007, and have barely worked on them. I'm not sure I'd know what to do with a wrench if you even handed it to me


If you think people on here are stupid, have fun on EvoM

 

[destruckeclipse]

Majority of the people on EvoM don't work on there cars at all, they pay people lots of money to do it for them.

Any who, since you are using a spacer to fix the problem, there still is a problem there you are just hiding. You still have yet to post the specs on the back of the wheel. If the 2g gsx wheels and the 3g wheels work for everyone but you, maybe you should think about that for a second. Your car is not different then anyone else's from the factory, so yes once again there still is a problem.

The childish video kind of says it all though.

 

[JusMX141]

And ask me if I care if I get a "vacation" from these forums. I'll be on evom from now on

Good riddance. The less infractions we need to hand out around here, the better we are collectively as a community.

By the way- nice try rubbing the "I have an Evo now" shit all in our faces like those cars have no problems at all and instantly raise your level of status among the entire U.S. population. I don't care, nor does anyone else you're attempting to impress. If I wanted an Evo I'd own one or three.


Your recent posts show exactly how much you really care about the cars or the community. Since the car's now gone, relinquishing your ability to add any further factual input....and I don't see your attitude improving, I'll go ahead and close the thread. It really takes some talent to get your own four-page thread closed around here....Congratulations, you've earned a gold star for the day.

 

[LandoAWD]

What was the offset, again?

IATL emmer-effers.