Slowboy Racing G50 turbo

[JusMX141]

So wait - you are the third owner of a turbo that is for sure an SBR G50 and it only has "150 miles" on it.

That is correct. After the second owner bought the turbo new in it's original packaging, installed it, and had it shit the bed after the car was dynoed, he had sent it to me for repair. I deemed the turbo not worthy of being rebuilt as the center housing was destroyed from the bent turbine, so I bought it from him for parts. The turbine housing and wastegate actuator will work on any T04E turbo with a T31 / Stage 3 turbine wheel.

Donkey's have wings and pigs fly too - so before you BS about a hand me down turbo, not one hand off, not two - but you are the THIRD owner and it "supposedly" has 150 miles on it - and you are not good enough to send pictures because we are going to make a "bullshit excuse" - and becuase your "expert" opinion matter more than the original builders?

I currently have the turbine housing, wastegate actuator, and compressor cover sitting on a shelf in my shop....I'll send you all of the pictures you want of those items. I scrapped the rest as this occurred over a year ago, and I simply don't have the space to keep scrap parts laying around from every blown turbo I receive nor do I document the teardown of each turbo with hundreds of pictures and an hour-long video.

I believe the owner when he told me the mileage because of things such as the wastegate flapper didn't even have excessive carbon. In fact, the carbon and oil mess that was there could be easily wiped away from the inside of the housing and the housing looks brand new.

Regarding my ability to I.D. this unit as a G60- I've seen plenty of turbos over the many years I've been doing this....I'm pretty sure I know a G60 when I see one.

HEHE - this is some good shit, now go play in someone else's post before I get very aggravated at all the BS you are slinging about my products!

I feel as though the the B.S. in this thread didn't start until post #6, but I'm sure you'll disagree. Sorry to critique your products without first contacting you. I guess I could start making a new thread with photos every time I receive a SBR G turbo in for service explaining what happened and why it failed, and then we could let the general population decide the quality of your products instead of just one person.

 

[50trimgst]

Agreed

 

[untouchablecc]

Yeah fightings cool.

For the record 50trimgst and I built the car in my garage. It runs awesome with the SBR50 trim I'm pretty impressed with the turbo as long as it holds up. We both had no idea how old it was because it came from an ex-slowboy employee from my understanding which he didn't even know everything to be said about it. My friend here wanted to know what kind of power to expect possibly a max airflow to be had in a MHI exhaust housing which I have a pretty good idea what that is but he was just looking for some facts so he should know if he needs to upgrades to get what he wants out of it.

Maybe this sums up some confusion. The turbo came off of a car that claimed 10 second times. I coughed and said well hey let's make a post an see what is said you never know. The turbo came straight off that car was never installed on anything and sat at a friend of mines house. The friend wanted a smaller turbo so 50trim GST traded him his MHI 16g and intercooler for "Friends" SBR50 trim and intercooler.

Yes it is a used product and if you guys wanna act like a GM dealership and have nothing to do with your product once it trades hands then that's cool. We can get Holsets all day for a 100 smacks. Not saying they are the greatest but we like what makes power and is reliable. Used or not you guys should be smiling because someone traded a 16g which is proven to hell and back with 10sec time slips.

Sure he did not buy that product of you guys first hand but I have. If your shop wants to act like a certain shop in Ohio that wants nothing to do with you unless you spend tons of cash then go for it STM seems to like the little guy along with TPG. He happened to luck out "so we hope" what seems like a decent trade. Maybe he will be back for more and buy products from you. I know I have even though I have heard the ups and downs of Slowboy and the sketchy details but it didn't stop me. Hell when you guys were still here in PA I drove a blown up seven bolt up to your shop in the back of my Talon and the store credit you guys gave me was enough to pay for most of my DSMLink. I also purchased a cast manifold from you guys with the cast external gate and I love it. Hell I wish you guys were still here so I could drive more cores up there I loved that haha.

Even in the event of a blown turbo we will prob take it to the EXPERT and have him rebuilt it cause he treats me and my friends well and I personally have watched his quality of work in front of me. He might even be generous enough to let us trade it in on something provided its not spanked.

So who wants to give us some specs info anything productive?

 

[pneumo]

So who wants to give us some specs info anything productive?

Essentially the G50 should flow similar to other 50 trim/Mitsu bolt-on turbos. If you have good supporting mods it should be capable of pushing an AWD DSM into the mid 11's, which is around 450 hp.

Good luck, and have fun!

 

[50trimgst]

Still no info from slowboy on the turbo yet.

 

[GsXdSmKingGsX]

Im the only one that didnt move to FL....what did you hear from me exactly? Just wonderin.

50trimgst got BUSTED!!

$20 says you avoid answering this question.

 

[Nvisabl]

Sorry Joe I have to speak up here. I sent pictures I sent the turbo.. The problem was a bad shaft (had an air bubble dead center of shaft it happens) It was plainly visible you concurred when you saw the picture. As any quality complaint I have ever had with SBR they wouldn't help at all. I lost a customer and friend over this incident (as well as $1200.00) hence I no longer purchase SBR turbo's nor FMIC quality issues there also. The excuse was oil contamination bearing wasn't ate up the shaft broke at 18psi. What it really came down to for me was make an attempt any attempt, SBR could have sold me a new turbo at their cost anything nope ( oh FYI I was a customer over 6 years at that point ) I didn't ask for free I asked for help. Wanna rip me now ?

 

[AK Maniak]

Seems like every thread involving SBR has to due with either their product failing, shitty customer service, or both. Good quality parts is what bring you customers. Good customer service is what keeps them coming back, perhaps that should be considered

 

[GsXdSmKingGsX]

I have NEVER had a bad experience with SBR. They went out of their way to find me a e316g when I was in need and about 90% of the parts on my cars that Ive owned have been through them. And when I find a GSX I will continue to order through them because of their great customer service towards me and helpfulness.

 

[97eclipseNT]

I don't think i've ever seen good customer service and Slowboy racing in the same sentence. I got an SBR gift certificate for $50 for xmas a few years back. I went to use it a little less than a year after I got it and was told it was expired. Giving away a free $50 was all the excuse I needed to never go there again. Sorry for being off topic.

 

[dsmusmc]

If your shop wants to act like a certain shop in Ohio that wants nothing to do with you unless you spend tons of cash.

HAHA! Are you talking about DB? You don't want to give me $30,000 to work on your EGO8? "F**k you cry babies!"

 

[GsXdSmKingGsX]

I don't think i've ever seen good customer service and Slowboy racing in the same sentence.

You just did.. I believe I just said it.

 

[AK Maniak]

You just did.. I believe I just said it.

Well I'm with him... Aside from you i've never really heard anything good about them

 

[50trimgst]

50trimgst got BUSTED!!

$20 says you avoid answering this question.

no im not avoiding it. he is not being entirely true. the two people that i know that worked for slowboy did not go with them to florida with them. ok this guy named tom and adam idk know there whole work history of when they worked for them.
your comment is just another one on here that did not answer my questions.
Also if you can pm me for my 20$ you owe me know. ill give you my paypal.

but realy i just want some info abought this turbo. i mean whats a safe boost leavel. i know if its like a 16g where after like 25psi its start getting hard on the turbo. also where to get a rebuild get if i run into any problems. I know i didnt buy the product off of you guy but this would be a great way to get a customer.

 

[TurboAnything]

WTF! after all this back and forth wheres the pics of this supposed g50? Early in the thread i though you said it had a mitsu marking on the turbine housing. Sounds like you mite have and old MUTT turbo.

 

[JusMX141]

The very early Garrett-based G50's used modified MHI turbine housings just like the ETS Mutts.

 

[50trimgst]

Oh god your killing me I talked to the previus owner of the turbo who worked for slowboy. I lost his number so I can't ask him no more abought the turbo. I know it's a g50. Simply just wanna know the max psi setting without it needing a rebuilt faster. Also don't say it's a stupid question as I have seen 20gs need rebuilt after a couple pulls with the boost controller vac line that developed a hole and boost went up over 30 possibly up to 40psi idk gauge stopped at 30psi.

 

[GsXdSmKingGsX]

You REALLY need to use proper grammer, punctuation and spelling 50trimgst. Work on it.

 

[JusMX141]

I know it's a g50. Simply just wanna know the max psi setting without it needing a rebuilt faster.

There is no "max number" that guarantees reliability. I've rebuilt Garretts from Hondas that were never run above 8psi, and I've rebuilt Holsets from Dodge Trucks that were running 48psi.

Just be happy your G50 is not Kinetic-built, giving it a much better chance of survival.

Also don't say it's a stupid question as I have seen 20gs need rebuilt after a couple pulls with the boost controller vac line that developed a hole and boost went up over 30 possibly up to 40psi idk gauge stopped at 30psi.

A 20G uses the same cartridge that a 14B does, so we know a 20G is reliable to 150k+ if conditions are perfect.

We have to remember that often when turbos fail at relatively low mileage and high boost, it may be the fault of other things...not just the turbo. Say your car has 160k and the original 14B started to blow oil past the turbine seal, so you replace it with a 20G....and the 20G develops shaft play at 5k miles. Did you drive the car to redline all 160k that the 14B was on? Probably not...but with the 20G on you're much more likely to do high RPM pulls. This is harder on the turbo, harder on a high-mileage engine (making it more likely to contaminate the oil), and also breaks down the oil faster than daily driving at a lower boost level.

 

[50trimgst]

Sorry a bought my grammer and spelling. Don't forget my 20$.

 

[SBR Joe]

I love lamp.

 

[Boug]

This is one of the better informative threads I have read in a while.

 

[jjrock5]

Soooo... SBR g50 turbos sold from '09 and up = good or bad?

So far it's not looking so great...