GSX_Dan
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- Jun 27, 2004
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Chicago,
Illinois
There are many writeups on setting up FWD suspensions but I have only found bits and pieces on setting up the optimal AWD suspension. I am guessing we're going to adapt both concepts from the FWD world and the RWD world as our cars have traction on all four wheels.
First I would like to address the issue of weight transfer. They say for the front wheels to get optimal traction during a launch there must be the least amount of weight transfer. Now this conflicts with the RWD ideology of having a lot of weight transfer to the rear axle. Here is where everything gets confusing. Am I to setup the car as both a FWD and RWD independently? The front with a low stance, stiff shock/spring combo and the rear high up, soft shock/spring combo? The way I figure it is this way the nose will have a hard time lifting and the rear can squat due to the high CG. Another option would be to set everything up in between the FWD&RWD world. Such as F&R suspension stiffness not quite hard but not quite soft and a leveled body stance but this would be probably be difficult to achieve as I'm sure there is a very sensitive sweet spot where you can have too much or too little or any of adjustments. One more setup I can think of is to set everything on stiff with the lowest stance possible to minimize drag(yes also a factor when going 100+mph) and let the differentials do their magic but this is probably the least likely to work on a high powered vehicle where wheel spin is a big issue.
Secondly, I would like to know what works best for people as far as camber goes. On 1G's I believe the macpherson strut design up front maintains constant camber through it's travel so it would be logical to set the camber to 0* to maximize tire patch to road contact would it not? Should be noted this is bad for handling through, however good for braking also. Now the rear camber goes in the negative as the body lowers so what should the initial setting be? I know it's crazy to have positive camber for a street car, but again for strictly a drag application would a little positive camber benefit any in hopes of bringing it as close to 0* as possible once the rear squats ?
Thirdly, bump steer or toe allignment is also to be taken into consideration as the wheels while in forward motion want to move away from each other causing resistance if this happens. Based on that principle should the toe be set at 0* or slightly inward(negative toe) or will a nice new set of tie rods keep the wheels from separating even under extreme speeds and/or body lift?
Nevertheless, I am going to experiment with these methods on my AGX/GC setup but I don't want to waste my time especially with the toe/camber settings in case some of the ideas I tossed around are just off the wall
First I would like to address the issue of weight transfer. They say for the front wheels to get optimal traction during a launch there must be the least amount of weight transfer. Now this conflicts with the RWD ideology of having a lot of weight transfer to the rear axle. Here is where everything gets confusing. Am I to setup the car as both a FWD and RWD independently? The front with a low stance, stiff shock/spring combo and the rear high up, soft shock/spring combo? The way I figure it is this way the nose will have a hard time lifting and the rear can squat due to the high CG. Another option would be to set everything up in between the FWD&RWD world. Such as F&R suspension stiffness not quite hard but not quite soft and a leveled body stance but this would be probably be difficult to achieve as I'm sure there is a very sensitive sweet spot where you can have too much or too little or any of adjustments. One more setup I can think of is to set everything on stiff with the lowest stance possible to minimize drag(yes also a factor when going 100+mph) and let the differentials do their magic but this is probably the least likely to work on a high powered vehicle where wheel spin is a big issue.
Secondly, I would like to know what works best for people as far as camber goes. On 1G's I believe the macpherson strut design up front maintains constant camber through it's travel so it would be logical to set the camber to 0* to maximize tire patch to road contact would it not? Should be noted this is bad for handling through, however good for braking also. Now the rear camber goes in the negative as the body lowers so what should the initial setting be? I know it's crazy to have positive camber for a street car, but again for strictly a drag application would a little positive camber benefit any in hopes of bringing it as close to 0* as possible once the rear squats ?
Thirdly, bump steer or toe allignment is also to be taken into consideration as the wheels while in forward motion want to move away from each other causing resistance if this happens. Based on that principle should the toe be set at 0* or slightly inward(negative toe) or will a nice new set of tie rods keep the wheels from separating even under extreme speeds and/or body lift?
Nevertheless, I am going to experiment with these methods on my AGX/GC setup but I don't want to waste my time especially with the toe/camber settings in case some of the ideas I tossed around are just off the wall
