ECMlink SD V3 WOT pulls inside how do they look?

[Archer Fabrications]

refrenced here Lots of knock with VERY low timing - DSM Forums: Mitsubishi Eclipse, Plymouth Laser, and Eagle Talon Forum: DSMtalk.com

Apparently too low timing can CASUE knock as well. so i guess its about finding the corect place in the middle. i think that my IAT temps being around 90 isnt helping methanol has been considered. And my coolant being around 200-203 sometimes im only using the AC fan as my main on this THICK koyo. So i think the thick core is compensating for the shitty fan. i wonder if i modify the main fan to fit between the HX40 if things will be better? i didn't see knock when temps were at 190 during warmup. iats were around 70 and things were great 20psi no knock. timing would rise. (still in negative though) i pushed out my lower IC pipe to make more room for the dump tube, even though the LIC pipe is heat wrapped there is no more random vibrations happening under the hood. i don't have any heat shields so that could be causing high IATs also using a tubular manifold has its downs i suppose. i tried heat wrapping the manifold and it glowed red at night so i took it off. that was a little too sketchy for me. what do you guys think? beef up the cooling and see if i can run more timing?

 

[Calan]

i think that my IAT temps being around 90 isnt helping

IAT's in the 90's aren't bad at all. I would love to have IAT's that low at any point during the summer.

i tried heat wrapping the manifold and it glowed red at night so i took it off. that was a little too sketchy for me.

I'm guessing that was while you were running anti-lag timing full time.


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BTW - You should look into using that Shift key while referring to yourself as "i".

 

[Archer Fabrications]

IAT's in the 90's aren't bad at all. I would love to have IAT's that low at any point during the summer.



I'm guessing that was while you were running anti-lag timing full time.


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BTW - You should look into using that Shift key while referring to yourself as "i".

Thanks calan, I will most definitely do that!

Here is the story about my timing, I'm running a 7 bolt crank pully on my 6 bolt crank, which is throwing off base timing, and it is not syncing with the advance shown in link. Also the cams may be cut improperly, they are after all BC 272s... Switching to a 6 bolt pully and different cams to see if that helps. Cams are gonna take a while to get though , also need T3 goin on for pump gas. because this is after all my daily. I posted this in that other thread too but why not my own also.

You're gonna get me perma-ban for pointing these out

*As the mods jump at the point to check my spelling at the sight of this post in the live threads section*

 

[Calan]

Here is the story about my timing, I'm running a 7 bolt crank pully on my 6 bolt crank, which is throwing off base timing

We've been telling you something was wrong with your timing for like 8 years now. How did you not check that timing plate before now?

also need T3 goin on for pump gas. because this is after all my daily.

Meh... I drive the crap out of my HX-40/BEP on pump piss every day, at least for a few weeks at a time when I switch from E85.

You're gonna get me perma-ban for pointing these out

*As the mods jump at the point to check my spelling at the sight of this post in the live threads section*

Nah... you won't get perma-banned for bad grammar, unless you repeatedly defy the rules in some kind of stand against authority or something. As long as people make an effort at using adult communication, we back off.... a little.

 

[Archer Fabrications]

We've been telling you something was wrong with your timing for like 8 years now. How did you not check that timing plate before now?



Meh... I drive the crap out of my HX-40/BEP on pump piss every day, at least for a few weeks at a time when I switch from E85.



Nah... you won't get perma-banned for bad grammar, unless you repeatedly defy the rules in some kind of stand against authority or something. As long as people make an effort at using adult communication, we back off.... a little.

As far as the timing plate, i have no clue how to tell the difference between 7 and 6 bolt crank pulleys, Aaron at English was the one to point that out. When I stuck the light on it i was showing 5* but i knew something was fishy. when the logs weren't matching up with base. That's why previously i was saying weird shit about "Well my base timing is 5* so if link says 2* i must be at 7" that's where i got that from and i guess i was right in a sense.

To fix my timing issues this is what is needed most likely.
6 bolt crank pulley
Replace Bent intake cam gear (wobbles 3/8")
Good cams that are precisely cut. (HKS, S2's, FpX's) the BCs are apparently made in china?

Then to actually make power with the new cams i need to Fab up or buy a SMIM, and go T3 & Vband DP with FIC2150's on C16. should net me low 10s. 9.9 on a gutted car.

 

[Archer Fabrications]

Not on a free private site that you voluntarily sign up to be a member of. And...I wouldn't go there to find out.

I wasn't asking cause I was trying to file suit I was just asking for the sake of asking. Not saying there is anything to gain from it.

ANYWAY, Calan, wanna see my English tune? I have my own thoughts about it because not much was changed for the money i spent, but yeah. Aaron didn't care about my AFR est meeting the WB, and didn't care about the Boost EST matching the MAP, they used sliders to up timing from 3k-6k 1*, and didn't transfer to the DA timing table, and minor smoothed the DA timing map. as well as messed with the base timing and leaned the shit out of it. and they didn't care about the negative timing cause it wasn't syncing, but they got the base as close as they could.

 

[Calan]

I wasn't asking cause I was trying to file suit. I was just asking for the sake of asking. Not saying there is anything to gain from it.

Dude, really? After all this discussion about grammar and rules, you can't just glance at what you type before hitting submit? That learning disability thing only goes so far you know.

Aaron didn't care about my AFR est meeting the WB, and didn't care about the Boost EST matching the MAP, they used sliders to up timing from 3k-6k 1*, and didn't transfer to the DA timing table, and minor smoothed the DA timing map. as well as messed with the base timing and leaned the shit out of it. and they didn't care about the negative timing cause it wasn't syncing, but they got the base as close as they could.

Pretty typical for a shop that charges for their time. Proper calibration takes a lot of time, and isn't absolutely necessary to get a one-time tune with a dyno there to check the results. But good luck repeating it or making predictable adjustments in the future.

 

[Archer Fabrications]

BAM!
hx40 dsm 392 AWHP on 92 pump gas - YouTube

First pull was on my tune conservatively at 22psi at the bottom of the pulls on the graph. All Aaron did was change AFRs and timing, and mess with base timing and regap plugs to net 40 extra hp.

 

[Archer Fabrications]

Hey guys, bringing this back because i am having a leaning issue after 5k. Actually right at4900 it dips rich then goes lean for the rest of the pull. I am having some battery voltage issues (see log) but i don't think this is the issue. How can i confirm if i'm running out of pump? I'm running a wally 255 rewired. thing is at this same boost i wasn't getting these lean issues a few months ago. the pump still sounds quiet.

I have tried lowering global (not too much but from 69.9-67.6) and the issue didn't change, but the whole curve went a little lower toward the target. its going from 11.6-12:0 at full boost right now. these are FIC 2150s i bought new and havent gotten the tune right since i bought these.

could a stock fuel filter and banjo fitting be the culprate?

tell me what you think.

this same thing happened at the 1/4 mile and that was a few weeks ago.

the tune has changed a little since the 1/4 im trying to lower my VE table and get the boost est matching up with the MAP.

also forgot to mention im on the .70AR BEP T3 housing with 3" Vband and STM T3 manifold since this thread was started.

for the record ill let you guys in on my 1/4 time

60' 2.1
1/4 12.4
mph 120

i wasn't using anti-lag on the track run and had over filled street tires on only 25psi

the "still lean 1-3" log is from today but im thinking about switching back to the settings i had in the 1/4 and adjust a few things.

On another note some things that are changing on the car:
kirkey pro street drag seat
cipher auto SFI 16.1 3" 5 pt harness
DG koni's x4
fuel lab -8 filter and lines to rail
spare NEW AEM WB sensor
i have all of these parts waiting to be put on (just bought a house with a garage)
and the cage is next.

After I figure out why this issue keeps leaning out I can start turning up the boost and throwin' some C16 in with QTP's I plan to get soon. hope for some good numbers. both of these logs have 5 gal 110 octane mixed with 3/4 tank 94 oct.


Edit: I just noticed my IAT & Barro are locked to factory. i dunno how long its been like that but could that alone cause an issue like this?

 

[Archer Fabrications]

here is most recent.. can i get some sugguestions?