ECMlink [Resolved] DSMLink V2 Lose settings when it looses power?

[49erGizmo]

Good Afternoon DSMers , I bought another DSM this time for Keeps its a 1997 GSX Eclipse. The prevouise owner said this car has a DSMLink V2. so I dont know much about this so I have been doing a lot of reading on what comes with this DSMLink like CD / Cables and login info. I have also read some old Post here on this site as you can see on screen shot. know for my question If my car battery dies alot and has been removed sevral time dose the prevouise tuning that the prevouise owner did off this DSMLink loose all it information or dose the car retain this stuff once the battery is pluged back in?

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The previous owner said that the CD and a pam pilot should be in a Tolt that he sent with the car. When I get home from work I will look for this CD and pam pilot and see how to use this.

The car has a lot of stuff deleted and I was told that the DSMLink can help have the car run correctly with all these deleted iteams.

 

[steve]

With DSMLink V2 for a 2G it's the cable from the ODB port to your laptop that is the key piece.
The latest client side (laptop) software can be downloaded from the ECMTuning site but without the cable you won't be able to do anything and there are no replacements for it.

 

[49erGizmo]

With DSMLink V2 for a 2G it's the cable from the ODB port to your laptop that is the key piece.
The latest client side (laptop) software can be downloaded from the ECMTuning site but without the cable you won't be able to do anything and there are no replacements for it.

I will look for this cable in this bin off stuff the previous owner sent with car.

question do you know if and when I removed the battery dose this mean I missed up the tune or this dosent matter?

 

[steve]

It's been a long time since V2 but I think the settings on a 2G were stored in the ECU's RAM so disconnected or letting the battery die would cause them to be lost. Normally you could just restore them from a current log but I'm guessing you don't have one.

 

[49erGizmo]

It's been a long time since V2 but I think the settings on a 2G were stored in the ECU's RAM so disconnected or letting the battery die would cause them to be lost. Normally you could just restore them from a current log but I'm guessing you don't have one.

correct as of the moment I don't have anything, just what the previous owner told me, and even that a little shady Couse the guy i bought the car from said everything was good and running strong then I get the car shipped and this car has sevral hitten probplem like keeping batter charged , idal issues, and so on ...

I am still looking in this bin of stuff that was sent with the car but no luck with any DSMlink stuff...garr

 

[steve]

Do you know you even have an ECU with DSMLink in it?

 

[49erGizmo]

Do you know you even have an ECU with DSMLink in it?

just what ever the previous said that it was runing under DSMlink V2 that all I know

 

[v8s_are_slow]

What items are deleted? V2 is pretty basic and wouldn't take too long to set up to at least get it to run, even if the files were gone. Upgrading to V3 would be MUCH better as you have so many extra things you can adjust but also understand if you don't have money to upgrade.

 

[2gmitsueclipse]

Good Afternoon DSMers , I bought another DSM this time for Keeps its a 1997 GSX Eclipse. The prevouise owner said this car has a DSMLink V2. so I dont know much about this so I have been doing a lot of reading on what comes with this DSMLink like CD / Cables and login info. I have also read some old Post here on this site as you can see on screen shot. know for my question If my car battery dies alot and has been removed sevral time dose the prevouise tuning that the prevouise owner did off this DSMLink loose all it information or dose the car retain this stuff once the battery is pluged back in?

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As Steve mentioned, you'll lose the setting changes made on a 2g when the battery is dead/disconnected with the v2 setup. The settings would revert to what ECM Tuning set based on the original order. The ONLY way to to access the v2 settings is the cable/OBD2 adapter from ECM Tuning (which you cannot get). If by chance you find the cable, you could either use it as is, or upgrade to v3 (suggested). Without the cable/OBD2 adapter, you effectively don't have a v2 setup. The ECU would be valued as a "socketed" ECU. You can also remove the ECU from the car, remove the outer case, and verify you have the v2 chipset.
Further reading:

http://www.ecmtuning.com/wiki/v3upgradereqs

http://www.ecmtuning.com/wiki/v3summary

 

[49erGizmo]

What items are deleted? V2 is pretty basic and wouldn't take too long to set up to at least get it to run, even if the files were gone. Upgrading to V3 would be MUCH better as you have so many extra things you can adjust but also understand if you don't have money to upgrade.

Ok so he gave me a list about 5 months ago of deleted stuff
Deleted EGR
Deleted FIAV
Deleted IVC
Deleted Balanced shaft
Deleted AC Compressor
Original battery remove with a little Battery JM Fab PC680

As Steve mentioned, you'll lose the setting changes made on a 2g when the battery is dead/disconnected with the v2 setup. The settings would revert to what ECM Tuning set based on the original order. The ONLY way to to access the v2 settings is the cable/OBD2 adapter from ECM Tuning (which you cannot get). If by chance you find the cable, you could either use it as is, or upgrade to v3 (suggested). Without the cable/OBD2 adapter, you effectively don't have a v2 setup. The ECU would be valued as a "socketed" ECU. You can also remove the ECU from the car, remove the outer case, and verify you have the v2 chipset.
Further reading:

http://www.ecmtuning.com/wiki/v3upgradereqs

http://www.ecmtuning.com/wiki/v3summary

Still haven't found the cable or better yet figured it out. I called a friend to help me see if one of these cable is it , because there's a bag with ten different cables.

I found a bag of different cables but no CD or login, the previous owner told me it should have been in the tote of stuff with the palm pilot.
I was able to find palm pilot with cables not sure why I need a palm pilot but he said this was important.

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[v8s_are_slow]

Ok so he gave me a list about 5 months ago of deleted stuff
Deleted EGR
Deleted FIAV
Deleted IVC
Deleted Balanced shaft
Deleted AC Compressor
Original battery remove with a little Battery JM Fab PC680

Gonna have to refresh my memory on the IVC, but what is that?!?!? I'm terrible at abbreviations sometimes. The Wtf's, 's, etc. Lol. You mean ISC maybe??? If that's gone, I'd recommend installing one. Even some of the really fast guys have them.

FIAV not really a huge deal and the others don't affect (effect, affect, whatever) anything with Ecmlink. Of course you're gonna need that cable. Can't recall if the V2/V3 versions are the same or not. If they're different, may as well just upgrade to V3 which is basically recommended anyway.

You don't need a cd, so don't worry about that. And the palm is only for datalogging programs. Not needed for Ecmlink, but good for a backup for now until Ecmlink is up and running to see where everything is at. With the palm, you're probably using MMCD or Pocketlogger. Whichever one he has loaded onto it.

 

[49erGizmo]

Gonna have to refresh my memory on the IVC, but what is that?!?!? I'm terrible at abbreviations sometimes. The Wtf's, 's, etc. Lol. You mean ISC maybe??? If that's gone, I'd recommend installing one. Even some of the really fast guys have them.

FIAV not really a huge deal and the others don't affect (effect, affect, whatever) anything with Ecmlink. Of course you're gonna need that cable. Can't recall if the V2/V3 versions are the same or not. If they're different, may as well just upgrade to V3 which is basically recommended anyway.

It was supposed to be IAC ( Idle Air Control )

I hear everyone replying to get a V3 is this just an upgraded software or is this a complete Chip change and so on ?
learning as I go and trying to get this car running strong and reliable

 

[steve]

I suggest you spend some time on the ECMTuning web site as it will answer many of your questions.
For example here's the summary of what is different between V2 and V3.

As you're digging around in the totes this adapter (in the center) is what your looking for. The cable wrapped around it is a common DB9 serial cable and not special like the black box adapter.

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[49erGizmo]

I suggest you spend some time on the ECMTuning web site as it will answer many of your questions.
For example here's the summary of what is different between V2 and V3.

As you're digging around in the totes this adapter (in the center) is what your looking for. The cable wrapped around it is a common DB9 serial cable and not special like the black box adapter.

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Well looking at this picture you posted looks like I have the cable in my picture of random cables next I just need to download the software from the link and learn as I go. I have read several links here on this forum..

 

[49erGizmo]

Gonna have to refresh my memory on the IVC, but what is that?!?!? I'm terrible at abbreviations sometimes. The Wtf's, 's, etc. Lol. You mean ISC maybe??? If that's gone, I'd recommend installing one. Even some of the really fast guys have them.

FIAV not really a huge deal and the others don't affect (effect, affect, whatever) anything with Ecmlink. Of course you're gonna need that cable. Can't recall if the V2/V3 versions are the same or not. If they're different, may as well just upgrade to V3 which is basically recommended anyway.

You don't need a cd, so don't worry about that. And the palm is only for datalogging programs. Not needed for Ecmlink, but good for a backup for now until Ecmlink is up and running to see where everything is at. With the palm, you're probably using MMCD or Pocketlogger. Whichever one he has loaded onto it.

well the previous owner said (The program should be loaded on the Palm pilot.) so I am assuming the DSMlink program.

 

[v8s_are_slow]

Oh yeah, I forgot that way back in the day, a guy named Hal Landry (think he's out of the dsm scene now though) helped with creating a program for palm pilot's. Don't think that's an option for V3 though. Not even sure what all the palm is capable of. Maybe just logging. Who knows. I've never used that feature as I never had a need being that I also took my mini laptop everywhere with me and it worked just fine.

 

[49erGizmo]

Oh yeah, I forgot that way back in the day, a guy named Hal Landry (think he's out of the dsm scene now though) helped with creating a program for palm pilot's. Don't think that's an option for V3 though. Not even sure what all the palm is capable of. Maybe just logging. Who knows. I've never used that feature as I never had a need being that I also took my mini laptop everywhere with it and it worked just fine.

Ya, I am learning and read as I go. Since I live in Cedar Park Tx not many DSMer still around.
In my younger days, DSM was the shit here in Austin Tx area back in 1990s.
that just tells you my age

 

[v8s_are_slow]

Ya, I am learning and read as I go. Since I live in Cedar Park Tx not many DSMer still around.
In my younger days, DSM was the shit here in Austin Tx area back in 1990s.
that just tells you my age

You're not telling me anything I don't already know, if that tells you MY age. Lol.

 

[49erGizmo]

Ok its been a min due to work, but I was able to find the connection in this tote and the Palm Pilot. wasn't able to figure out what to due with it. I have been reading and looking up videos but I don't see anyone using a palm pilot to tune their car with this.

so right now I made my car worse before it was running pretty good, the only problem I had was IVC and the car not turning back on after parking. I would have to boost the car then I would be good until I stop anywhere.
some people told me if the car doesn't start back up it's a bad battery plus it was from 2016 is whats on battery, so me as a dump ass I disconnect the battery and had it charge and tested they said the battery good and so was my alternator. I put the battery back into car and now the car is acting way way worse. as soon as I put the car in gear and start to drive immediately the check engine comes on and this ati lock comes on. and the car sounds like it choking it self. park it right back to drive way. everyone telling me I ruined the tuning to the car because I disconnected the battery.

do we have any DSM tuner near Austin Tx, I am in need of help.

if I can't figure this shit out I might look into getting a new motor with the whole set up like AC compressor and original throttle body with all the FIAV, ISC, EGR, and IVC everything this previous owner deleted.

I so frustrated that I cant drive this amazing car..







Deleted FIAV
Deleted IVC

 

[v8s_are_slow]

If you disconnect the battery, you erased all settings. Do you have any files saved on the laptop? If so, you can upload one and be back where you were.

You might have to get it tuned remotely. V2 isn't real hard though. Not sure if you've seen my videos regarding it or not.

And have you looked over this section for the palm pilot? http://www.ecmtuning.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=18

 

[49erGizmo]

If you disconnect the battery, you erased all settings. Do you have any files saved on the laptop? If so, you can upload one and be back where you were.

You might have to get it tuned remotely. V2 isn't real hard though. Not sure if you've seen my videos regarding it or not.

I don't think I have see your video send it to me, so i can check it out

 

[49erGizmo]

And have you looked over this section for the palm pilot? http://www.ecmtuning.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=18

this has a user and password

 

[v8s_are_slow]

this has a user and password

My bad. You'll need an account to get access to it. May need to email them in regards to that but they have a whole section dedicated to the palm pilot usage.

 

[v8s_are_slow]

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[49erGizmo]

DSMers, It's been a while been super busy with work and kiddo due to the summer break.
I am about to get back into this GSX,
I was able to relocate my battery to the trunk and get it set up for a regular size battery since the previous owner had it set up for JM Fab PC680 battery that was old and mad...

I will soon be getting a regular 86 size battery with the correct Cranking AMP.
then I will start trying to get this car re-tuned by using everyone's suggestions and learning the palm pilot usage and this V2 DSM lInk and Youtube Videos...