Replacing lost key (all keys lost) for dsm.. [Merged 3-8]

[laserspeeddemon]

HELP! I lost ALL the keys to my Talon, WHAT CAN I DO NOW? I am illegal parked, at a festival. Finding out the Tower, is gonna be a nightmare, I am in germany, can't speak a lick of german and there is no indication of whose property I am parked on. How can I get another set of keys.

 

[Loxias]

Try calling a dealership. They should be able to get you a key based on your VIN. I've had to do this a couple of times, albeit with newer cars. It's worth a shot though and will be much cheaper than a re-key (only cost me $5 for the key).

 

[rucr8z2]

Try calling a dealership. They should be able to get you a key based on your VIN. I've had to do this a couple of times, albeit with newer cars. It's worth a shot though and will be much cheaper than a re-key (only cost me $5 for the key).

If they can't help you take the cover off your steering column and remove your ignition switch from the back off the key tumbler and turn it with a srewdriver like you would with a key!

 

[dsm4life]

just got get your spare set

 

[HighPsi92GST]

might as well buy a few keys right away. and i would suggest saving money in the future for emergencies like this...

 

[Defiant]

If they can't help you take the cover off your steering column and remove your ignition switch from the back off the key tumbler and turn it with a srewdriver like you would with a key!

And be sure to have the wheel locked in the direction you want to go

 

[skelly]

Well, this is embarassing/frustrating. It would seem I've lost the one and only key to my car. Things are chaotic right now because we are moving, so not being in one of the 3 usual places for keys, it could literally be buried anywhere amongst our crap. Rather than going through the nightmare scenario of unpacking everything we own in an effort to find it, I'd rather just order a new key anyway - is there some key code that I can use to get a new one from Eagle or Mitsubishi or whoever? I swear I did make an effort to have it copied, but the two places I went to said that they didn't have a blank to match and that i'd probably have to go to the dealer. Well now it would seem I <i>do</i> have to go to the dealer (?)

So much for getting my tune-up done in time for SMOG by the end of the month. *sigh*

- SK

 

[oldman]

you dumbass....

Call any dealer and give them your vin number and they will be able to make new ones for you, make sure you get two this time.

 

[skelly]

hahah okay.

 

[EvolvingGST]

hahah okay.

hahah let me know how much it costs...

 

[skelly]

Cost isn't too bad. Only 16 bucks for the Mitsubishi blank plus the cut from a key-code. They say they have a database of key codes based on VIN which can be looked up in their "business department" (local dealer, who knows if it's the same internal organization nation-wide) and that by law I just have to show that the car is indeed mine and they will get it rolling. Sounds like I can have it done by tomorrow if I were to get in there this afternoon.

[Sales go to Classifieds or PMs.]

- SK

 

[skelly]

I was neither making, nor asking for a sale, merely pointing out that were I to consider looking into replacing the locks with those from a used vehicle, it would have to be a complete set, not just the driver's door and ignition as the original respondant had offered. I prefer to think of that as valuable information, not a private transaction.

At any rate, the situation has gone from bad to worse. I went to Chrysler today and it turns out that they don't have VIN-based key code database entries going back to 1990 anymore. She said they have them for 1992, but for 1990 I am out of luck. I went to Mitsubishi just down the road and they don't have codes for cars with Eagle VIN's (go figure). Mitsubishi would however be more than happy to sell me a complete lock set for the bargain price of $340 complete with new keys. While that may end up being my final approach, my next step will be to force entry into the car, disable the alarm and see if the key has fallen under the seat or something. If the key is not there, and I can find it within 2 weeks of moving into our new place, then I'll cave in and buy the new lock set. The price doesn't seem TOO bad - I was expecting it to be $1K or so just because they've "got me," but indeed: lame.

Oh, I'm also told that I can pull the ignition switch and take it to a locksmith and that they would be able to fabricate a new key. I have no idea what that would cost, but if it's anywhere near $300, I would just get the complete new set from Mitsubishi.

On a semi-related note, I was quite alarmed to learn from Mitsubishi that there was no AWD Turbo Eclipse before 1995 - is that right? They show an AWD N/T, but no turbo. This might explain some of my difficulties in finding compatible parts at the Mitsubishi parts counter.

 

[92awddsm]

I was neither making, nor asking for a sale, merely pointing out that were I to consider looking into replacing the locks with those from a used vehicle, it would have to be a complete set, not just the driver's door and ignition as the original respondant had offered. I prefer to think of that as valuable information, not a private transaction.

At any rate, the situation has gone from bad to worse. I went to Chrysler today and it turns out that they don't have VIN-based key code database entries going back to 1990 anymore. She said they have them for 1992, but for 1990 I am out of luck. I went to Mitsubishi just down the road and they don't have codes for cars with Eagle VIN's (go figure). Mitsubishi would however be more than happy to sell me a complete lock set for the bargain price of $340 complete with new keys. While that may end up being my final approach, my next step will be to force entry into the car, disable the alarm and see if the key has fallen under the seat or something. If the key is not there, and I can find it within 2 weeks of moving into our new place, then I'll cave in and buy the new lock set. The price doesn't seem TOO bad - I was expecting it to be $1K or so just because they've "got me," but indeed: lame.

Oh, I'm also told that I can pull the ignition switch and take it to a locksmith and that they would be able to fabricate a new key. I have no idea what that would cost, but if it's anywhere near $300, I would just get the complete new set from Mitsubishi.

On a semi-related note, I was quite alarmed to learn from Mitsubishi that there was no AWD Turbo Eclipse before 1995 - is that right? They show an AWD N/T, but no turbo. This might explain some of my difficulties in finding compatible parts at the Mitsubishi parts counter.

You can have a locksmith come to your house and cut a key for you. I was having problems with the keys I got with my car(original and wore out) so I called a freind of mine that owns his own locksmith company. I told him to let me know when he was going to stop by so I could leave the original key for him. Well, I got to my shop later that day and he had come and cut me 2 new keys without even having my original in his possesion. I cant tell you how much it would be becuase it was a freebie for me but I think it is usually around $50-100. In you case being a non-emergency, you might be able to get it done for less.

 

[slugsgomoo]

skelly: they're incorrect. No AWD N/A cars were sold in the US- though there were some N/A AWD's that were sold in europe IIRC. There are enough people here with 1990-1994 AWD/turbo cars to dispute that pretty soundly.

The dealer told me they couldn't cut anything older than 1994. I of course had a 1991, and only had the valet key.

Luckily there was a tiny code on the key and the locksmith was able to cut a key from that that worked perfectly.

I'll second the vote for a locksmith anyhow.

 

[wret]

My keys fell from my pocket in a snowstorm once. I called a locksmith. He was able to jiggle a blank key in the lock, then grind a little, jiggle a little, grind a little until in about 20 minutes he had a working key. Cost me about $100 if I recall correctly. This was a few years back though.

Not really related, but another time (and another car) as I was leaving work, someone called to me and I stopped and stepped out of the car, letting the door close.

Yes, I locked the keys in with ignition running. I called the friendly neighborhood smith again. He wedged the door, pulled on the linkage and popped it open in about 2 minutes. When I asked how much he, did a lot of mental arithmetic... "hmm... after 5 on Friday... one hour minimum... emergency service... carry the one... 159 dollars."

"Uhh... How much?" I asked. "I thought it would be like $20."

"You got cash?"

I guess the point is if catch the right guy on the right day, he might negotiate.

 

[skelly]

Well to prove hers and all your points about a locksmith, my wife whipped out the local telephone directory and get this: printed on the SPINE of the dang book is a HUGE lock smith ad "24 HOURS SERVICE!" so she calls, "yeah, you want me to come out right now or in the morning. It'll cost you $140 in the morning, or double that right now." So there you have it. What a freaking black magic though to be able to craft working keys like that, eh!? i thought surely I'd have to remove the ignition and they'd have to disassemble it or something to find the perfect pattern or something. Pretty cool and much better than all the rest of the wild goose chases and parts buying.

Thanks for the tips.

- SK

 

[xXDSMSoonXx]

skelly: they're incorrect. No AWD N/A cars were sold in the US- though there were some N/A AWD's that were sold in europe IIRC. .

Well the galant GSX

 

[skelly]

Welp, $140 later I have two new keys for my car, so that's the end of that.

- SK

 

[Auladan]

Somehow just after Independence day I lost my keys. I've turned the house upside down looking for them, and I've decided that I just need to get them replaced.

I called up a locksmith and he told me that he can get me a replacement key for really cheap if I give him the number code or what not off the lock assembly in my door.

So I go and take off my door panel and sniff around, and I see that the lock assembly is up in the metal frame of the door.

How can I get to the number code on the lock if there even is one? Is there another way to do this? I noticed several screws that hold the door closing assembly in place, which is connected to the power lock and the door handle.

Can I get some help? I need to have a set of keys by tonight.

 

[4x4 tsi]

Just go to a Chrysler dealership with your VIN number and proof of ownership, they will make a key for you. Cost me like $10.

 

[karbon]

Oh crap, you're really testing my memory here. Last time I took mine out I remember it being somewhat of a pain in the ass. If I remember right, there's only a clip that encircles the lock cylinder and holds it in. This is what is a pain in the ass. See page 42-59 in the service catalog (downloads section of 4g64.com if you don't have one).

 

[diddy456]

well same thing happened to me, I am going to have to go to the dealership today it looks like, it sucks

 

[Auladan]

I thought of the VIN already, but the locksmith told me that car manufacturers didn't start to allocate lock assemblies by VIN codes until 1995. My car is a 1990.

I'll try downloading and following the instructions you posted, Karbon. Thanks to both of you for your replies, this is really frustrating.

 

[Auladan]

Just went out and looked, and I can see where the lock is, but the means to remove it are blocked by the window. The window was down about four inches because it was a hot day when I parked, and without the key I can't power it to move it back up.

So, part of the window is blocking the lock, and I can't see any numbers on it from the angle I have. This is starting to bite the big one.

 

[karbon]

without the key I can't power it to move it back up.

Au contraire:
Pop the hood and get a really long piece of wire. Secure one end to the positive side of the battery and for god's sake don't touch the other end to anything EXCEPT pin 2 of the power window plug. Please confirm this as I don't want to be responsible for frying your window motor or relay or fuse. Look in that manual on page 42-57 for a diagram to double check AND to see which pin #2 is (basically the "top" row of pins has only 3 pins: one pin, 3 spaces, then pins 2 and 3. 2 is the middle of the 3).

 

[BlackbirdOfPrey]

How does he pop is hood without the hood release thats INSIDE the car?