PTE 50 trim BB with Greddy 24R FMIC

[mitsuclipsegsx]

I have greddy's 24r FMIC and SBR told me it won't work with pte BB 50 trim,anyone know why? I dont want to buy another fmic?

 

[2gGSX]

If the 24r is made for a turbo outlet that points towards the passenger side, then it won't bolt right up to a PTE BB 50 trim because they fire straight down so you'd need a coupler perhaps or reroute your piping.

 

[CanadianTSi]

The Greddy IC is setup for the stock Turbo outlet IE going towards the passenger side.

You will have to get an elbow welded onto the turbo so the outlet faces the passenger side.

Other than that it will work fine.

*EDIT* Beat me to it =)

 

[mitsuclipsegsx]

The Greddy IC is setup for the stock Turbo outlet IE going towards the passenger side.

You will have to get an elbow welded onto the turbo so the outlet faces the passenger side.

Other than that it will work fine.

*EDIT* Beat me to it =)

thats sucks, can an exhaust shop do this? Any other 50 trim that will work so i dont have to weld anything

 

[kraka]

Yeah, it sounds like it would be pretty damn tricky to route a small pipe or coupler to turn around into the lower i/c pipe, just to have to make another sharp turn once again...

Sounds like way too many sharp un-needed bends in the i/c pipes....Now just might be the right time to think about upgrading your i/c setup while your already at this step...I bet you could flip the greddy system for a good $300-500, just enough to buy you a huge core, short route pipes, couplers, and a trip to the welder

 

[mitsuclipsegsx]

Yeah, it sounds like it would be pretty damn tricky to route a small pipe or coupler to turn around into the lower i/c pipe, just to have to make another sharp turn once again...

Sounds like way too many sharp un-needed bends in the i/c pipes....Now just might be the right time to think about upgrading your i/c setup while your already at this step...I bet you could flip the greddy system for a good $300-500, just enough to buy you a huge core, short route pipes, couplers, and a trip to the welder

isnt the greddy 24r huge?? man i am pissed now

 

[blackGSX2g]

thats sucks, can an exhaust shop do this? Any other 50 trim that will work so i dont have to weld anything

Most of the 50 trims I have seen have the T04E or T04B cover which naturally downfires. You could have a metal 90* welded on, but I chose to get a silicone 90* elbow instead. I got mine off of eBay for about $20 shipped. The T04E outlet is 2", so you need an elbow that goes from 2" to whatever size your IC piping is.

Its really not a deal breaker as most larger turbos will need either the welded or silicone elbow.

EDIT:
Due to several PMs, here are some pics of my elbow with the PTE dual BB 50 trim and my lower IC pipe.

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1755940&postcount=6

 

[v2ner]

Sell the Greddy IC. Not to me though.

 

[prostreetdsmx1]

i have to say i am not a fan of the Greddy FMIC at all. It has like 4870ft. of piping! We have actually tested it's performance on a Dyno. We had a 2g GSX with it run on the dyno a few years back. When we took off the Greddy FMIC and put on a PTE core we gained something like 27whp. it was insane. All we did was change the core and the upper IC pipe and it was a HUGE difference.

this is just my personal opinion. got a 16g/t28 or something the the Greddy is a very easy to install product that will do well for you.

 

[mitsuclipsegsx]

Most of the 50 trims I have seen have the T04E or T04B cover which naturally downfires. You could have a metal 90* welded on, but I chose to get a silicone 90* elbow instead. I got mine off of eBay for about $20 shipped. The T04E outlet is 2", so you need an elbow that goes from 2" to whatever size your IC piping is.

Its really not a deal breaker as most larger turbos will need either the welded or silicone elbow.

EDIT:
Due to several PMs, here are some pics of my elbow with the PTE dual BB 50 trim and my lower IC pipe.

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1755940&postcount=6

little confused, you said in the pm that your ic exited through the passengerside like mine, then in this pic, where does this pipe go, does it go all the way back like a half circle

 

[blackGSX2g]

little confused, you said in the pm that your ic exited through the passengerside like mine, then in this pic, where does this pipe go, does it go all the way back like a half circle

I said (or meant to say) that my pipe comes out the opposite of yours. Its routed to the driver's side, then through into the driver's side of the FMIC, then out the passenger side, and up to the throttle body.

You just take the 90* elbow I have and flip it around so it faces the passenger side.

 

[mitsuclipsegsx]

oops i misread it,so any 90 elbow will work. hows this http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/90-D...ewItemQQcategoryZ33742QQitemZ8029622585QQrdZ1

the greddy is 2.5, and this 50 tirm is 2.5right

 

[blackGSX2g]

oops i misread it,so any 90 elbow will work

Yes, any 90* that has a 2" inlet and whatever outlet size your intercooler pipes are.

 

[mitsuclipsegsx]

is the turbo 2 or 2.5

 

[CanadianTSi]

Turbo should be 2" and I believe the Greddy pipes pre IC are 2.25"

I choose to have an Elbow welded on as it came to the same price as the elbow + 2 T-bolt clamps and it eliminates the chance of a boost leak.

 

[blackGSX2g]

Turbo should be 2" and I believe the Greddy pipes pre IC are 2.25"

Yes, the turbo outlet is 2".

Welding is a good option, but I chose not to as I wanted something that was reversible.

The eBay link you (mitsuclipsegsx) posted will be too big for the turbo, but it happens to be the same one I used. I took a ring of stock intercooler piping and put that over the turbo outlet as a spacer, then put the elbow over that. It worked fine with no leaks until I got the 2"-2.5" elbow in the mail.

 

[mitsuclipsegsx]

i found it: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/e...d=1,1&item=8029136705&sspagename=STRK:MEWA:IT

For that turbo did you get the Turbine Inlet Ported or Turbine Outlet Ported,or neither

 

[blackGSX2g]

i found it: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/e...d=1,1&item=8029136705&sspagename=STRK:MEWA:IT

For that turbo did you get the Turbine Inlet Ported or Turbine Outlet Ported,or neither

None of it was ported, and I left the divider in the turbine housing.

 

[mitsuclipsegsx]

None of it was ported, and I left the divider in the turbine housing.

One more question .... Did it come with the oil return line and oil feed line? Where did you get it form SBR or TSF

 

[blackGSX2g]

One more question .... Did it come with the oil return line and oil feed line? Where did you get it form SBR or TSF

I got it direct from PTE. All the vendors I went to were sold out.

It didn't come with either the oil return line or the feed line. I got a drain line made for a Garrett turbo. For the feed line I ran into a few other problems. First off, the turbo has an oil restrictor in the feed line hole on the turbo. I had some clearance issues between the 90* elbow in the feed line and the stock manifold. I put another gasket between the turbo and the manifold (temp solution until I receive SBR's manifold) and it gave it just enough room. I also had to use a -3AN feed line as I couldn't get any fittings to go from -4AN to the oil restrictor fitting.

 

[v2ner]

Yes, I agree with you, prostreetdsmx1. I just didn't want to say it straight up like that. I had basically the same experience.

 

[mitsuclipsegsx]

I got it direct from PTE. All the vendors I went to were sold out.

It didn't come with either the oil return line or the feed line. I got a drain line made for a Garrett turbo. For the feed line I ran into a few other problems. First off, the turbo has an oil restrictor in the feed line hole on the turbo. I had some clearance issues between the 90* elbow in the feed line and the stock manifold. I put another gasket between the turbo and the manifold (temp solution until I receive SBR's manifold) and it gave it just enough room. I also had to use a -3AN feed line as I couldn't get any fittings to go from -4AN to the oil restrictor fitting.

yea i will have sbr manifold, so i wont run into that problem right? which oil feed line should i get -3an or -4an

 

[mitsuclipsegsx]

Yes, I agree with you, prostreetdsmx1. I just didn't want to say it straight up like that. I had basically the same experience.

what do you mean same experiance? with the turbo setup? or you had the greddy fmic

 

[v2ner]

Greddy IC.

 

[mitsuclipsegsx]

Greddy IC.

i know but what was wrong with it??