Oil leak help

[deputy865]

I have a leak on the drivers side of my.. Its dripping from around my oil filter area. Any ideas? Ill try to provide as much info and pictures as i can.. Oil is also coming from the little filter to the left of my valve cover.. The name escapes me right now... But as you can see, oil is alll over the oil pan and such.. Think its just the gasket or whatever seals the oil pan and oil filter housing?

I just replaced the valve cover gasket not too long ago. Its not leaking from around there from what i can see.

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Please help me out. I want to get this taken care of asap so i can sell the car. I searched and couldnt find anything similar..

Thanks,

Shane

 

[nlzn]

I'd imagine oil is dripping from your "breather" on the t-stat housing.

I'd put the original PVC components back in place so it can do what it was supposed to do (and it will solve that leak).

As far as the OFH/front leak, there's a lot of things in that area that could cause leaks. Oil pan gasket, front main seal, looks like the drain line for the turbo could use a new gasket. It's pretty ugly down there.

Degrease the pan and the bottom area and let it run then you'll have a much easier time pinpointing that bottom mess

 

[deputy865]

I have some purple power.. Do just spray it ALLLL over in that area and see where it gets me? Then start it up?

How much are we talking for all the parts?

What PVC things need to go back in place.. That leak has been there since i bought the car.. So i dont know what i need...

 

[nlzn]

You pretty much need to just degrease all of that crap. Spray on what you got and scrub/wipe til it's clean.

PCV: One line runs from your VC to the intake manifold (this is where the PCV valve is found).

Where your breather filter is located theres supposed to be a line that comes off and connects to your intake charge pipe.

I hear bad things about DD's with blocked PCV systems. Its really easy to work around with catchcans or the "dsmspeed" catcan 3$ fuel filter inbetween.

 

[deputy865]

Alright.. So what exactly should i do for the breather? Im sort of a DSM noob.. So anything too complicated and im lost.. My PCV valve is still connected to the TB. Or is there more to it then just that? If you want or need more pictures, i can take some right now.

Ill get out there and clean what i can get to.

 

[deputy865]

Oil does look like its hitting my belts to.. There is oil on hood.. Not a lot but a little splatter. There is oil all over on the drivers side....

ahhhh need help

 

[1g dsm d22]

damn kinda looks like mine. but i know where im leaking from. is my oil return line, and pan gasket from what i see, and my rack and pinion is too soooooo i would say is the same for u man, just change the pan gasket and clean it up real good under there. and if is hiting your belts, might be your main seal, or oil pump gasket. and yeah the reason why your lil breather filter is leaking oil through there is because your pcv is cloged. change it. and if posible replace the breather filter.

 

[deputy865]

Thanks.. I have a whole list piled up from what i might need to do. It only leaks when the car is running.. None of this stuff is too expensive either is it?

New PCV valve
New valve cover (mines cracked, oil pooling.. I can see the crack)
Oil filter cooler bolt/ O-ring
Oil pan gasket
Turbo drain tube gasket
Oil pump seal
Front crankshaft seal
Main seal?

 

[1g dsm d22]

Ya, the main seal is your crank seal.

 

[nlzn]

Listen, degrease all that crap around the front cover and the OFH / Oil pan.

Then take it for a spin and get some good positive pressure so you can see where the leak(s) are coming from down there before you start buying stuff.

I wouldn't be suprised if you're spraying your hood, thats a sign of clogged (or in your case its ###### both) not routed correctly PCV components. Normally that mix of unburnt fuel gas stuff and oil goes back into your intake tract. In your case its spraying out of that breather.

 

[deputy865]

Listen, degrease all that crap around the front cover and the OFH / Oil pan.

Then take it for a spin and get some good positive pressure so you can see where the leak(s) are coming from down there before you start buying stuff.

I wouldn't be suprised if you're spraying your hood, thats a sign of clogged (or in your case its ###### both) not routed correctly PCV components. Normally that mix of unburnt fuel gas stuff and oil goes back into your intake tract. In your case its spraying out of that breather.

So just get myself a new PVC valve and replace it and that should take care of that, or are there more parts to it?

Shane

 

[brian9397gsx]

like previously said get that thing clean first then drive it with as much oil as there is on there you really cant tell. remove your top timing cover check your timing belt see if that is soaked. if it is count on cam and crank seals and a new belt.

 

[djmixerx]

DONT NOT get a oil pan gasket. Use RTV thats what is used. Make sure everything is clean b4 you put the RTV on. Hondabond is best I believe.

 

[deputy865]

Alright, ill do all that tomorrow..

But for the PVC, do i just need to get a new valve? And that should take care of the breather? Everything is hooked up that i know of. Vacuum lines are plugged.. But the PVC valve is hooked up.

Shane

 

[nlzn]

New PCV wont hurt but you need to get a hose and connect it to your charge pipe and throw the breather in the trash.

Check the pic below I found here in the gallery (best i could find quickly). The hose runs from the VC to the charge pipe right behind the maf.

I think 7/16" or 3/8" anything should work, might wanna double check though.

 

[deputy865]

Ok.. I cant see really where its leading to.. From what i could see, my PCV valve goes right to the TB and thats it.. I wasnt aware of there being another line??

Shane

 

[DSM1G90]

..Dang! Looks like the front main seal went "bye-bye". That calls for a total belt side teardown and bs/crank sprocket removal to get to that seal...

....and hope and pray that the seal didn't get all rock hard real bad, for that'll cut into the crank and no seal under the sun will then stop any oil leak down there ... a new crank would have to be in order.

-DSM

 

[deputy865]

..Dang! Looks like the front main seal went "bye-bye". That calls for a total belt side teardown and bs/crank sprocket removal to get to that seal...

....and hope and pray that the seal didn't get all rock hard real bad, for that'll cut into the crank and no seal under the sun will then stop any oil leak down there ... a new crank would have to be in order.

-DSM

I hope thats a joke.

Can we just stick to positive stuff.. Like my oil pan and return tube leaking?

 

[DSM1G90]

...sorry in showing negative attributes, but just being realistic - for I've seen a mess like that before when a front main seal lets go - esp, when you said in your opening statement "Its dripping from around my oil filter area"...

..and this mess, where I did find a shot main seal, did the same: dripped around the oil filter area.. for my results were coming from behind the crank pulley/lower timing cover area. I did a full disassemble, pulled that seal out (which came out in pieces from being rock hard), inserted a new seal, did the reassemble and got my leak quieted down. But, I did one seal where the seal was so bad that it put a very small microgroove in the part of the crank where the hardened seal actually cut that groove. I was a goner then knowing that no seal will stop that leakage completely, but it did slow down the leak considerably..

Is the driver's front brake area also soaked in oil, or is the inside of that left splash guard all soaked in oil. Also, are you sporting some oil film on the lower side of the left side of the car?

As with other tips mentioned above: Put that thing on ramps, take the power washer and hose off what is soaked in oil. Then drive the car - just don't run it in idle - and see where the oil leakage is coming from then report back to us on what you found.


Good luck = DSM

 

[nlzn]

Ok.. I cant see really where its leading to.. From what i could see, my PCV valve goes right to the TB and thats it.. I wasnt aware of there being another line??

Shane

You weren't aware of the other line because you have the breather on your VC, which is what I've been saying this entire time .

Step1: Take the breather off
Step2: Throw it in the trash
Step3: Take the 7/16th or 3/8th hose you bought and put one end on the nipple where the breather was. (zip tie or hose clamps please).
Step4: take the other end and connect it to the nipple on the intake charge pipe behind the MAF.
Step5: Start the car, go crazy and breathe a nice sigh of relief as now your PCV system is back to what it should be, and your thermostat housing doesn't get drowned in oil anymore.

I made you a pretty little paint diagram:

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[deputy865]

You weren't aware of the other line because you have the breather on your VC, which is what I've been saying this entire time .

Step1: Take the breather off
Step2: Throw it in the trash
Step3: Take the 7/16th or 3/8th hose you bought and put one end on the nipple where the breather was. (zip tie or hose clamps please).
Step4: take the other end and connect it to the nipple on the intake charge pipe behind the MAF.
Step5: Start the car, go crazy and breathe a nice sigh of relief as now your PCV system is back to what it should be, and your thermostat housing doesn't get drowned in oil anymore.

I made you a pretty little paint diagram:

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THANKYOU!

But what if oil still goes that way and leaks into my intake pipe, down it and into the turbo??? I heard thats really bad haha.

And yes, i do have oil on my splash guard.. What does that mean?

Shane

 

[nlzn]

There's going to be a little oil going into the intake tract and possibly into the turbo.
It's MADE to do that from the factory, it's not going to cause anything adverse. (now if your intercooler pipes have a quart of oil of them, there's a problem. But some is ok and normal).

Have no fear, you are conquering your dsm, one oil leak at a time.

 

[deputy865]

There's going to be a little oil going into the intake tract and possibly into the turbo.
It's MADE to do that from the factory, it's not going to cause anything adverse. (now if your intercooler pipes have a quart of oil of them, there's a problem. But some is ok and normal).

Have no fear, you are conquering your dsm, one oil leak at a time.

Thanks that puts me at ease.. I wonder why that area was capped off to begin with?

Now im just waiting to see what DSM1G90 says about the oil on my splash guard.. I really really hope this is a simple oil leak.

Shane

 

[nlzn]

You had a boost leak if there wasnt a cap or block on the intake for that hose.

Really it's not THAT hard to change the front main if you have to.
Resetting the timing is what makes it time consuming but not difficult.

 

[deputy865]

You had a boost leak if there wasnt a cap or block on the intake for that hose.

Really it's not THAT hard to change the front main if you have to.
Resetting the timing is what makes it time consuming but not difficult.

There is a cap there. So thats what we think it is, front main seal? Is the seal expensive?