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NOS Octane Booster! dyno day... WOW!!!!!

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boosted86

boosted86

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Ok well headed out to the dyno today to see what my dsm had to offer. first pull without the nos octane booster netted a measily 325 whp with 10* of timing by 6.5k. added a half a bottle of this octane booster( for shi*s and giggles) and holy shi*! i was able to add about 5 * of timing all trough the rpm range< leaving me at 16* of timing by 6.5k and 340 whp. this stuff really does work. i have a dyno sheet to prove it. ill post a dsmlink log of the final run.<a href="http://s88.photobucket.com/albums/k190/alfreeoa86/?action=view&current=340_Horsepower.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k190/alfreeoa86/340_Horsepower.jpg" border="0" alt="340"></a>
 

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Boosted_out said:
Wow. I would have never believed that if I didnt see a sheet.
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i didn't believe it myself, ive always been skeptical about this stuff. teh shop tunner didnt even believe what he was seeing. he told me he had never tried it before because he never belived it would work...

silvreclips said:
How much gas did you have in your tank when you put this in?
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my tank was half full, so i put in half a bottle. maybe 5/8 :D
 
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Have you previously tried to add that 5* of timing throughout the RPM range? I honestly don't believe it. It takes like 4 of those tiny bottles to boost the octane by 1 point.
 
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Was your car even completely warmed up yet?
And was the log you posted from post-octane booster? If so, I see only 15* at 6k and then you let off.
I can't imagine you can only get up to 10* of timing on pump gas (without the octane booster). My guess is your tune isn't that great to begin with.
You should also adjust your TPS to read 100% at WOT. You're also getting pretty close to the top of those injectors.
 
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yes, i have tried adding timing ( i am a beliver in tuning for timing) heres a log that i made last night. as you can see with the timing adjustments that are in this log, and the one that i posted in the original post. the timing curve is much more aggresive in the original post. if i added timing anywhere from what i had it i would knock horiibly( i was already at knock threshold without the octane booster) the stuff on the box says it rasies the octane count not point. ( i know , as stated before i didn't believe it either) so therotically, 1 count = 10 points.
 

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snowborder714 said:
Was your car even completely warmed up yet?
And was the log you posted from post-octane booster? If so, I see only 15* at 6k and then you let off.
I can't imagine you can only get up to 10* of timing on pump gas (without the octane booster). My guess is your tune isn't that great to begin with.
You should also adjust your TPS to read 100% at WOT. You're also getting pretty close to the top of those injectors.
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coolant temp was 170, and i just realized that the first log was not the dyno run. it was the log i made on the way home, for some reason i dont think my comp saved the dyno run. i was able to get about 12* by redline. and my tps is adjusted, 106 offset. i was shooting for 10.5 to 11.0 af's to see if i could run as much timing as possible, the end result is high idc's...
 
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PRODUCT DESCRIPTION S.I.N.: 834-300
NOS&#63194; Racing Formula Octane Booster was designed for
racing use only. It was developed to increase octane effect
ratings as much as seven (7) counts (70 points). It is formulated to
eliminate the preignition (pinging) common to lower octane
gasoline, and helps in all situations from pulling a load up a
steep grade to racing with nitrous oxide at the track. Contains
MMT with powertane and nitromethane.
PRODUCT BENEFITS
&#8226; Safe for oxygen sensors and catalytic converters
&#8226; Increases octane effect of unleaded gasoline 7 points
&#8226; Cleans fuel injectors and combustion chamber
&#8226; Excellent as a lead substitute
&#8226; Reduces hydrocarbon and carbon monoxide emissions
&#8226; Provides corrosion protection
&#8226; Improves fuel efficiency
&#8226; Prevents valve sticking
&#8226; Eliminates engine knocking and pinging
&#8226; Restores lost horsepower
&#8226; Prevents stalling and hesitation
&#8226; Water suppressant properties
TYPICAL APPLICATIONS
&#8226; Recommended for racing engines including carbureted,
fuel injected, turbo and super-charged
&#8226; Excellent smoke suppressant for 2 cycle engines
&#8226; Recommended for high-performance engines plus
marine, industrial, lawn, farm and recreational vehicles
NOTE: NOT recommended for use on diesel engines of any
type
 
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I know this topic has been a debatable topic for quite some time and I know numbers do not lie, but I still do not trust these off the shelf octane boosters. I know a lot of them contain alcohol and other ingredients which can have bad affects. If you want a cheap, safe, and proven alternative to the regular lineup of octane boosters then try toluene. I use it whenever I go to the track to bump the octane rating of pump gas up. It is the main ingredient in gasoline and adding it to gas is actually a method the oil companies use to do the same thing you want to do: raise octane ratings. Read this article then go to sherwin-williams and get some CHEAP. You will be wwaaaaaaaayyyyyyyy more satisfied than you are with this stuff. Even though 15whp is quite impressive, I still cant believe that was the only factor leading up to your 2nd run.

Toluene - Octane Booster FAQ
 
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I have used the race blend NOS for three seasons now with no ill effects. I currently run 32 psi with 16* timing and 11.5:1 AFR.

I am a firm believer in this stuff and at $14 a bottle it beats the price and availablity of toluene by miles.

Good work.....no go and put a whole bottle in and turn up the boost!!!
 
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xloki77x said:
Even though 15whp is quite impressive, I still cant believe that was the only factor leading up to your 2nd run.

Toluene - Octane Booster FAQ
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i think you mis understood. just adding the octane booster did not give the 15 whp gain, it was the ability that the octane booster gave me to run more timing that netted me the power gains.
 
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I've used the NOS race brand. I've seen independant results and Lucas is a touch better so I switched. I run 2 bottles on about 1/2 tank. The difference on my DSMlink "dyno" plot is noticeable. All the spikes in the torque curve are smoothed out and I can run up to 23* timing on 23-24 psi on a cool day.

This stuff works, the MMT surrounds the flame and buffers it. Sorta like using Pepto-bismol for an upset stomach. It utilizes a completely different mechanism for suppressing knock, thats why a little bottle can be effective for knock suppression.

Anyways, I swear by the stuff. I run Xylene from Sherwin Williams when I'm going for 25-27 psi on aggressive timing. I run 3 parts Xylene, 7 parts 93 octane, and 2 bottles of Lucas octane booster. The Xylene boosts it up to 100 octane, the octane booster about another 5 octane points up to 105 octane.
 
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pboglio said:
I've used the NOS race brand. I've seen independant results and Lucas is a touch better so I switched. I run 2 bottles on about 1/2 tank. The difference on my DSMlink "dyno" plot is noticeable. All the spikes in the torque curve are smoothed out and I can run up to 23* timing on 23-24 psi on a cool day.

This stuff works, the MMT surrounds the flame and buffers it. Sorta like using Pepto-bismol for an upset stomach. It utilizes a completely different mechanism for suppressing knock, thats why a little bottle can be effective for knock suppression.

Anyways, I swear by the stuff. I run Xylene from Sherwin Williams when I'm going for 25-27 psi on aggressive timing. I run 3 parts Xylene, 7 parts 93 octane, and 2 bottles of Lucas octane booster. The Xylene boosts it up to 100 octane, the octane booster about another 5 octane points up to 105 octane.
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Sounds like you turned your car into a straight junkie!!!! haha:sneaky:
 
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I understand that it wasnt the booster itself that gave you the added hp, rather the ability to advance timing. I pay $8/gal for a 5 gal. jug of toluene @ my local paint supply store and it itself is rated at 114. Thats why I use it over xylene or any other additive. I guess I am not familiar with NOS brand booster and cannot argue a valid point without knowing and having tried the stuff myself. From the dyno, you can tell it works, I was just putting something else on the table. I shouldn't say one is better than the other, but personally, I trust the fact that toluene is basically gasoline and it has been proven to work for years. Regardless, congrats on the numbers.

Pete
 
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Xylene is rated at 117 octane. Its also used in Meth production which is probably why I got the strangest look from the guy behind the counter as I didn't look like I was about to go painting a house with my 5 gallon pale.
 
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^That's why it's hard to get up here and we pay a lot more for it. Last time I priced it out from a paint store I came to conclusion that I should just buy a drum of race gas. LOL

$14 a bottle for NOS race formula is cost effective for me.
 
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