no start/no compression/

[Glliw]

So, I just installed new topline revised lifters, 264/272 cams, timing belt and all its components. It cranks but will not start. I ran a compression test and I noticed cyl #4 was soaked in fuel mixed with soot and the others were at least lightly coated. The compression was something along the lines of next to nothing. My friends dad who was a mechanic for 30 yrs said it might be due to the lifter height, and is keeping the valves slightly cracked thus allowing major blowby. . They look to be like 1/2-1mm taller than the stock ones. The timing all lines up right.

What do you think?

 

[robs90tsi]

But your in Florida, isnt it always hot down there?? I would try 20w-50 and see if that helps.

 

[BISHILVR]

Yeah, your in Florida. I run it year round up here, so if I can you can.

 

[Glliw]

Ok, I guess I'll give it a shot. It does get cold here though, down in the 20's sometimes. Just changed the oil like a month ago .

 

[Glliw]

Well, I haven't changed the oil yet, mainly because I haven't had a chance to get a ride up to the parts store. Just figured 'd let you know a couple other things. Ticking gets faster as rpms increase. If rpms are steady at lower rpm(under 2k) then it is not a consistent beat. I pulled the exhaust to check if anything was slapping around in there and I couldn't find anything. Checked for shaftplay once more, and couldn't find anything.

 

[BISHILVR]

Thats normal for lifter tick. You also might have a timing belt tensioner that was not pretensioned enough, or a otherwise loose belt.

 

[Glliw]

The belt is tight. I made sure it wasn't loose. The tensioner is brand new, as well as tensioner pulley, BS tensioner pulley, idler pulley, and water pump.

 

[Glliw]

I had a friend over, said it sounds like its something slapping the valve cover, but there's nothing to be doing so. I'll be having another friend thats more knowledgable come by tomorrow. Maybe if you think of that noise it'd help determine the sound. Could the clearance be so close that the gasket material between the cover and heads being lower than that of a new gasket(valve cover has been off multiple times) be the culprit?

 

[BISHILVR]

No, your overthinking it. Its probably just lifter tick, or a rod knocking.

 

[Glliw]

well I just replaced all the lifters so that leaves, rod barrings ... and the possibility of me droping a bolt or nut down on top of the piston... neither of them sound good.

 

[fallenauthority]

well I just replaced all the lifters so that leaves, rod barrings ... and the possibility of me droping a bolt or nut down on top of the piston... neither of them sound good.

If you spun a rod bearing it starts off as only knocking at about 2800 rpms-3300rpms. Not at idle. If you dropped a nut or bolt down onto the top of your piston your car wouldnt be running right now, well it could be but it would be running HORRIBLE. Sounds like you didnt bleed your lifters correctly and they are just settling in. And those compression numbers arent "good" They are ok, but not good, any variation of compression between any of the cylinders over a 14psi difference there is a problem. Most likely worn rings.

 

[Glliw]

What's the difference between rod knock and spun bearing?

 

[fallenauthority]

What's the difference between rod knock and spun bearing?

Having rod knock and spinning a rod bearing is the same thing. The rod knocks due to having a spun bearing in it.
But I believe Topline had a recall on their lifters recently due to them collapsing and starting to tick. Might want to contact them and see.

 

[Glliw]

Drained the oil, no metal in it. Will drop pan tomorrow, and from there decide to remove head.

 

[Glliw]

Dropped the pan, found copper shards in there. Nothing was bigger than about 1mm or so, but my hand was covered in little specks.

 

[fallenauthority]

Grab each of the rod end caps and try to wiggle it. One or more of them should wiggle a noticeable amount, if it wiggles thats the rod with the spun bearing.

 

[Glliw]

Cylinder # 4 wiggles

 

[BISHILVR]

They can wiggle side to side some, as long as they dont wiggle front to back at all.

 

[Glliw]

its front/back

 

[BISHILVR]

Pull the cap off and take pics of it. It sounds like junk