2G New Wheels 18x9.5 +22, Stock Body

[DSMpwr25]

Im looking at running some 17x9 +27 with a 225/45/17. I want to make sure these will fit flush?? like this guys before I spend the money. Im not trying for the mexican skateboarded out look, just the mean stance.

 

[mavisky]

Im looking at running some 17x9 +27 with a 225/45/17. I want to make sure these will fit flush?? like this guys before I spend the money. Im not trying for the mexican skateboarded out look, just the mean stance.

Here's m y 17x9 +24's without the fender flares.

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[97eclipseNT]

looks good man

 

[Ludachris]

Kyle, you should mention your alignment settings in your post...

 

[mavisky]

Actually the car has very little camber in those photos as I was using the stock upper mounting plates.

same here.

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Here you can see the normal race alignment a little better. Linked as you need to see the very large image. This is just a hair over 4 degrees negative camber on the front.

http://gallery.indystars.org/d/96964-1/dsc_8028.jpg

http://gallery.indystars.org/d/97253-1/dsc_8631.jpg

 

[DSMpwr25]

Here's m y 17x9 +24's without the fender flares.

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Looks good, sticking out to much to my taste tho on my street car. Mabey a set of 17x8 or 17x8.5 with a lot of negative camber would suite me better.

 

[slowgsr]

Depends on what you call excessive and what kind of driving you set up for. Serious autocrossers look for ways to increse negative camber beyond that of normal lowering. And any tire manager could tell you that tire wear from negative camber is minimal with proper alignment.

I was just going to mention this.

Proper toe adjustment is very important to extended tire life.

 

[ACM]

Here's my 2G running 285/30.18 Kumho V710s on 10.5x18 CCWs - they stickout at least as far as mavisky's 1G. Hoosier A6s need an additional 5mm spacer and stick out probably 0.5" further than the 710s.

 

[JOEY A]

Here's my 2G running 285/30.18 Kumho V710s on 10.5x18 CCWs - they stickout at least as far as mavisky's 1G. Hoosier A6s need an additional 5mm spacer and stick out probably 0.5" further than the 710s.

I bet if you DD somthing like that the paint on your doors will hate you

 

[DSMunknown]

At least it looks fast.

 

[mavisky]

Here's my 2G running 285/30.18 Kumho V710s on 10.5x18 CCWs - they stickout at least as far as mavisky's 1G. Hoosier A6s need an additional 5mm spacer and stick out probably 0.5" further than the 710s.

Beautiful car there, but I can't help but notice that 2 second penalty there in the lower left.

 

[ACM]

I wondered if anyone would notice

That's the reason the full-size version of that shot is my screen background; it's my favourite shot from the 2005 Nationals, drop-kicking myself out of contention.

Beautiful car there, but I can't help but notice that 2 second penalty there in the lower left.

 

[gsxAWDdsm692]

Stretched tires are stupid in my opinion unless your drifting. Any other way it seems to bring out your "burner" status.

 

[prostreetdsmx1]

i love it!

 

[b00stedtalon2]

Looks good, I know alot of EVO owners that toss on 9.5's.

 

[VanIsleDSM]

Looks quite nice.

I wonder why my 235/45/17s rubbed so bad w/ 8" wide rims, 38mm offset.

I had to roll the back.. no problems there now, the front I pulled out pretty huge.. and on my sportline/tokico combo I would always get a light rubbing on deceleration.. but I could never figure where it was coming from.. no marks on the tire or the fender.. or the control arm.. I even put tape on everything to check and see if there was any rubbing going on.. never did figure it out.

Just put on my GC/Koni combo though and raised it up a bit.. rubbing is gone now.

 

[fulanititoo8198]

Here's my 2G running 285/30.18 Kumho V710s on 10.5x18 CCWs - they stickout at least as far as mavisky's 1G. Hoosier A6s need an additional 5mm spacer and stick out probably 0.5" further than the 710s.

What offset any more shots?

 

[Zmann42087]

That looks great!

I don't think you've said yet.. what wheels are they? They look like Advan RG2.

 

[fulanititoo8198]

Missed it ^

225/40/18. Negative camber helps turn-in. Im a manager at a tire shop so i take the tires off of the wheels and rotate them side to side to help the cause. All my friends have 240's/Z's so the look definately rubbed off on me. as far as extra money for a wider wheel, there really isn't much difference in price. Wider wheels with lower offsets are always going to look better (dish/lip) than a higher offset skinnier wheel. Most eclipse owners with 18's rock 225's anyways, i just chose to do so on a 9.5. Wider wheel also helps the track width and "widens the tires" so to speak. For autocrosses I have a pair of 17x8 mustang gt wheels with 245/40/17 potenza re-01r's and the 225 on a 9.5 has the same treadwidth as the 245 on an 8. Gramlight 57c stripped the paint off.

 

[Zmann42087]

^^^ Ah, thanks.. I can't miss it now.

 

[ACM]

A few more shots from that year - all the later shots are from rain events with 245/45.16 Hoosier Wets - I'm in New Englsnd, what can I say ?

Offset was either +10 or +12 - I can't find the receipt. Hosier Tom ordered them, he will have the data..

My street DSM (2G) runs 17x8 Villains, 40 offset with Hankook RS-2s - my 98 had no rubbing at all with rolled rear arches, my 95.5 has occasional rubbing with the same combination.

What offset any more shots?

 

[drivemusicnow]

I'd just like to say that stretched tires is a very sub optimal setup. There is some debate on this (I'm not really sure why) but if you have the rim, run the wider tire.

Stretching tires is detrimental for a couple reasons. Number one is that they take all of the give out of the sidewall which means the wheels are accepting receiving and transmitting any force (potholes?) the tires get. They also force the sidewall bend in a way it's not meant to, which can pop a bead in some cases, ruin a tire in others.

It's also typically done so you can lower car further, which everyone knows creates worse suspension geometry. (not as bad with the unequal double wishbone vs mcstrut but still not good)

The only real reason I've found to do it is for winter tires so that they have a lower profile cutting through snow.

I really have no idea why it became "cool" in the euro tuner mind. Especially because I think it came out of the drifting world, which most euro guys hate. Who knows.

On another note, the car does look good.

 

[gsxAWDdsm692]

Yea, the sold purpose of stretching a tire on a wider rim is for drifting. Minimizing side wall flex and going into corners helps you get sideways with less effort.

 

[Flash]

I'd just like to say that stretched tires is a very sub optimal setup. There is some debate on this (I'm not really sure why) but if you have the rim, run the wider tire.

Stretching tires is detrimental for a couple reasons. Number one is that they take all of the give out of the sidewall which means the wheels are accepting receiving and transmitting any force (potholes?) the tires get. They also force the sidewall bend in a way it's not meant to, which can pop a bead in some cases, ruin a tire in others.

It's also typically done so you can lower car further, which everyone knows creates worse suspension geometry. (not as bad with the unequal double wishbone vs mcstrut but still not good)

The only real reason I've found to do it is for winter tires so that they have a lower profile cutting through snow.

I really have no idea why it became "cool" in the euro tuner mind. Especially because I think it came out of the drifting world, which most euro guys hate. Who knows.

On another note, the car does look good.

It actually didn't come out of the drifting world. It came from Germany. A buddy who loves VW's sent me a link to VW forum discussion on 'poke and stretch.' Anyway, poke refers to the wheel sticking out past the fender and stretch refers to the stretched tires on the wheels. You might all be wondering- Why?
Here is the explanation: "Drastic "poke and stretch" originated in Germany. Everyone wanted to run deep dish wheels, but Germany laws prohibited the thread of the tire from extending beyond the edge of the fender."
So it's not done for performance benefits, it was simply visual. To further understand why they would want to do something just for looks, you must also understand that the laws in European nations are more strict with performance modifications.

 

[RotaryAE86]

It actually didn't come out of the drifting world. It came from Germany. A buddy who loves VW's sent me a link to VW forum discussion on 'poke and stretch.' Anyway, poke refers to the wheel sticking out past the fender and stretch refers to the stretched tires on the wheels. You might all be wondering- Why?
Here is the explanation: "Drastic “poke and stretch” originated in Germany. Everyone wanted to run deep dish wheels, but Germany laws prohibited the thread of the tire from extending beyond the edge of the fender."
So it's not done for performance benefits, it was simply visual. To further understand why they would want to do something just for looks, you must also understand that the laws in European nations are more strict with performance modifications.

example (non euro)

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