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[chrish1440]

Ya know what... thats not a bad idea. I never thought of that. Thank's.
Hopefully one day Ill be in the same catagory of car and skill your at.

When is the next time you are heading out to the track?

 

[NewTurboTuner]

I'm not sure how you say its a cleaner install because there is alot more in the engine bay than 3" IC pipe, but it does look nice

How many track passes can you do, before you have to add more ice?

I've thought about installing a water cooled system, but I like to drive my car on the street too. I know the Water IC can't be beat on the drag strip, but what about street driving? Do you drive this car on the street, or is it just a track slut? If you do drive it on the street, how have you're normal street driving days been so far? I'd assume after driving awhile the water would start to get warm, because there wouldnt be ice in the reservoir. And after the water is heat soaked it couldnt cool air temps anymore, because there's no way to cool the water down without ice. (if you've taken logs after street driving like this, I'd love to know how the air/water IC is working out for you. I'm interested in the system)

thx

 

[fst91dsm]

I think Ill be back out in 2 weeks or so.

I dont think I said it was cleaner, but I could be wrong? I add a bag of ice after every pass, I pump out the water from the "ice box" and refill it with ice befor the pass. You should see peoples faces when they see a bunch of water comeing from the cabin of the car. Its pretty funny. I do only drive the car on the track, but there have been a couple of cars on here Ive seen run an air-water for a daily driver. I think some car manufactures have used this system as well. Ill try and find out more about it. But I think it works just the same.

 

[inneedof]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pF4c5RcvXEk

was this from race wars?

 

[fst91dsm]

was this from race wars?

Ya that was, that was just a few weeks ago. There were 2 this year.

 

[dsmmack]

I'm not sure how you say its a cleaner install because there is alot more in the engine bay than 3" IC pipe, but it does look nice

How many track passes can you do, before you have to add more ice?

I've thought about installing a water cooled system, but I like to drive my car on the street too. I know the Water IC can't be beat on the drag strip, but what about street driving? Do you drive this car on the street, or is it just a track slut? If you do drive it on the street, how have you're normal street driving days been so far? I'd assume after driving awhile the water would start to get warm, because there wouldnt be ice in the reservoir. And after the water is heat soaked it couldnt cool air temps anymore, because there's no way to cool the water down without ice. (if you've taken logs after street driving like this, I'd love to know how the air/water IC is working out for you. I'm interested in the system)

thx

I daily drive my water to air setup on the street. I have a autometer temp sensor to monitor water in the surge tank that receives the water that just came out of the intercooler, Sits around 35-40*C, Sometimes hits around 45*C. This is with 21 psi on the street with two B&M trans coolers running inline as heat exchangers, an ebay W2A IC 4x4x10 core, and about 3 gallon water tank which also on track day I add ice to.

 

[NewTurboTuner]

I daily drive my water to air setup on the street. I have a autometer temp sensor to monitor water in the surge tank that receives the water that just came out of the intercooler, Sits around 35-40*C, Sometimes hits around 45*C. This is with 21 psi on the street with two B&M trans coolers running inline as heat exchangers, an ebay W2A IC 4x4x10 core, and about 3 gallon water tank which also on track day I add ice to.

How hot is the outside air when your IC/Water temps are 95 - 115? Did you get air temp intake readings when the IC/Water was that high? Using the trans coolers as heat exchangers is a good idea. I like that. I know quite a few Supercharged V8's useing water/air IC's. With my 4" think air/air IC core my intake temps are only ever 3-4 degrees about ambient, but I would love to get it below ambient at the track. I've tried to think of ways that I could make a air/air + water/air hybrid intercooler so that I could have the best of both worlds ....but I havent come up with something that would work enough for me to switch. fst91dsm's times and speeds show that Turbo cars LOVE the Icy cold air!

 

[dsmmack]

How hot is the outside air when your IC/Water temps are 95 - 115? Did you get air temp intake readings when the IC/Water was that high? Using the trans coolers as heat exchangers is a good idea. I like that. I know quite a few Supercharged V8's useing water/air IC's. With my 4" think air/air IC core my intake temps are only ever 3-4 degrees about ambient, but I would love to get it below ambient at the track. I've tried to think of ways that I could make a air/air + water/air hybrid intercooler so that I could have the best of both worlds ....but I havent come up with something that would work enough for me to switch. fst91dsm's times and speeds show that Turbo cars LOVE the Icy cold air!

Apologies to the original poster for kinda highjacking the thread here,

The AEM is showing intake air temps of 140-150F degree's however this due to I have the IAT in the stock intake manifold which is causing excessive heat soak on the sensor.
Exterior temps are in the 30's C.
Problem is I don't know how low the temps are getting due to the lowest water temp gauge I could find started at 40C so It may be running cooler not sure. It stays around 40C and I've only ever seen it move (on hot 35+ days) up to 50 and then drop back down right away. I know I can stick my finger into the overflow bottle (for the w2a) and feel the water and its not boiling hot. IC to touch is warm but not boiling hot. On the days at the track with adding ice the IC is nice and cold. Have not been able to get to the track yet this year due to constant issues with clutch and transmission. Hoping to get there this weekend so we'll see what it puts down.

I'm thinking of changing my whole W2A setup for next year however, But the one thing that bugs me about mine and the whole water to air is just that even though you have basically no length of pipe routing you end up filling up the engine bay and it looks cluttered so quickly. Just not that same nice clean look from a short route FMIC piping setup. The barrel cooler looks 100% better but I just don't know if I like the fact that its listed at 1.1 psi pressure drop @ 7psi (ouch) Still might do a better IC core and build a new setup to go more length wise like the barrel just a regular core compared to what I have now with the width wise setup. I know its hokey and lowball cheap but it half-assed works.

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[DsmDave95]

as funny as this may be, its the sad truth.....

agreed

 

[fst91dsm]

Reid at KaizenSpeed, the guys who built my car were thinking of doing a hybrid kind of intercooler thing for a race car there building. It wouldent hurt to give him a call. 509-585-0900.