My engine build PICS

boosted240 · Aug 28, 2009

92talontsibryce said:
yea i was planning on getting some arp rod bolts but wasnt really sure on how to install them. i heard you have to get the rods machined if you got them but im really unsure. And i plan on going with acl bearings.

Bryce

You said u werent sure how to install the rod bolts. Just knock the old ones out with a hammer and then just knock the new ones in.

92talontsibryce · Aug 30, 2009

Well after a long saturday of working on the talon i got most of the interior put back in. and cleaned up the engine bay quite a bit. Im just waiting on my oil squirters, rods, and pistons before I start reassembling the block. I wish the shop would hurry up so i can get this project really goin. But here are some more pics of the progress.

bigal07 · Sep 1, 2009

looks like a nice clean build! the wires leading into the ecu were way messed up ha i hate when people do that kind of stuff.

Boostjunki84 · Sep 1, 2009

Nice man. She's really coming along. Keep up the good work. :thumb:

ratatack · Sep 1, 2009

Looks like you have some time invested in this baby. Good luck getting it all back together looks like your doing it right.

Like to see some more pics.

4g63t · Sep 8, 2009

seams your doing okay! btw that block is loud!

92talontsibryce · Sep 9, 2009

4g63t said:
seams your doing okay! btw that block is loud!

The machine shop messed up and painted the block red when I asked for black. But no worries I stripped the red and painted the block black myself and it looks good. Just wait till after this weekend for another update. I will be assembling the block with alot of pictures

bryce

907dsm · Sep 11, 2009

hurry up already....btw what turbo are going to be running? 14b?

boosted240 · Sep 11, 2009

lookin good :thumb:

Muzda · Sep 11, 2009

Nice work. That interior looks like it cleaned up nicely. Take rush2252s advice and clean that engine bay up before you put the motor back in. Either simple green or engine brite will do the trick.

92talontsibryce · Sep 14, 2009

907dsm said:
hurry up already....btw what turbo are going to be running? 14b?

The first step in building a dsm is not to rush things. you start rushing and you forget to do things. And for now im running an evo III turbo but plan on going green after the engine is broke in

well i started putting my block together and already have ran into some problems. After installing the crank and torquing it down it wont budge so im working with that and then i will post some pictures.

Bryce

rush2252 · Sep 15, 2009

+2 for plastigauge!

DSM_PWR · Sep 15, 2009

Yup plastigage... sounds like it's time for looser bearings

What did you torque it down to? ARPs or stock mains?

92talontsibryce · Sep 15, 2009

Well after messing with the main caps and making sure all the bearings were snapped in right the crankshaft was able to be spun by hand. I checked all the bearings and plastigauged them all again and every thing came out good. So tonight I worked on installing my new evo 9 pistons. I managed to get one piston completly put in tonight and will try to get the others put in before the weekend. Top piston ring was .018 and second was .016 and the rod bearing clearance was right at .020. So everything is looking good now.

so here are some pics of the new painted block and the process of getting it to this point. ENJOY :hellyeah:

jrohner · Sep 16, 2009

If you had it at a machine shop I'm confused on why you didn't have them check the clearances instead of going the plastigauge route.

92talontsibryce · Sep 16, 2009

I used plastigauge to make sure the machine shop did there job right. It only cost $1 for that extra assurance.

flawlessTSI · Sep 17, 2009

i like how you can wear white socks in your garage and not get them dirty ha.

oh and btw the piston is installed wrong, the intake valves are bigger so ull need to turn the piston around so the big notch on the piston is on the intake side of the block..if that makes since to you.

car looks good.

DSM_PWR · Sep 17, 2009

92talontsibryce said:
....Top piston ring was .018 and second was .016....

Your second ring should never have a wider endgap then your top... it should be around .020

Ludachris · Sep 17, 2009

Can you post the build up to this point in a blog entry so it's easier to follow along? If you need to start a thread to ask questions on how to proceed in a build, that's perfectly okay. But if you're posting pics and information to show your progress, it's much easier for us to follow along in a blog entry so we don't have to read all the feedback replies mixed in with your updates. Please refer people to the blog for the updates instead of posting them in the thread where you're getting feedback. Thanks.

awdtalon11 · Sep 17, 2009

Good luck look like you guys know what your doing.

92talontsibryce · Sep 17, 2009

Ludachris said:
Can you post the build up to this point in a blog entry so it's easier to follow along? If you need to start a thread to ask questions on how to proceed in a build, that's perfectly okay. But if you're posting pics and information to show your progress, it's much easier for us to follow along in a blog entry so we don't have to read all the feedback replies mixed in with your updates. Please refer people to the blog for the updates instead of posting them in the thread where you're getting feedback. Thanks.

Yea that is no problem but along with the blog I would like to keep updating this thread as well if thats ok?

And these are evo 9 pistons which are a little diffrent than the more common 4g63 pistons with bigger intake relief ports. These pistons have two dimples on the top of a piston to show you where the front of the motor is. I hope this clears things up.

And my top ring is at .018 and my second ring is .016. This is what Jon told me to do at dsmgraveyard. He definatly knows his stuff and trust his knowledge on the 4g63. these are evo 9 pistons so keep that in mind too. thanks for the concern though I will doube check just to make sure. I do make mistakes and appreciate any help i can get.

Ill update this tomorrow and start a blog for people to start following but im just to tired tonight. But just for some excitement I got all the pistons and rods installed with all good clearances. pics tomorrow :thumb:

Bryce

rush2252 · Sep 18, 2009

quick question. Do you have the money for new Main bap bolts? I would hate to see this fail by reusing old parts. I know they can be reused if they arent stretched but they look like they've seen better days. Ive had ONE motor fail becauuse of that and wouldnt want it to happen to you. BUT if your strapped for cash you might look into it!

92talontsibryce · Sep 18, 2009

rush2252 said:
quick question. Do you have the money for new Main bap bolts? I would hate to see this fail by reusing old parts. I know they can be reused if they arent stretched but they look like they've seen better days. Ive had ONE motor fail becauuse of that and wouldnt want it to happen to you. BUT if your strapped for cash you might look into it!

haha yea they look like crap bc thats when i took them out bc the crank wouldnt turn. the have thread locker on them thats why they look so bad. But other than that they look good and have perfect thread.

Bryce

Ludachris · Sep 18, 2009

92talontsibryce said:
Yea that is no problem but along with the blog I would like to keep updating this thread as well if thats ok?

And these are evo 9 pistons which are a little diffrent than the more common 4g63 pistons with bigger intake relief ports. These pistons have two dimples on the top of a piston to show you where the front of the motor is. I hope this clears things up.

And my top ring is at .018 and my second ring is .016. This is what Jon told me to do at dsmgraveyard. He definatly knows his stuff and trust his knowledge on the 4g63. these are evo 9 pistons so keep that in mind too. thanks for the concern though I will doube check just to make sure. I do make mistakes and appreciate any help i can get.

Ill update this tomorrow and start a blog for people to start following but im just to tired tonight. But just for some excitement I got all the pistons and rods installed with all good clearances. pics tomorrow

Bryce

I have no problem with you updating both for now. Thanks!

92talontsibryce · Sep 20, 2009

Ok well the motor is coming along pretty well at the moment. I have all the pistons installed and am currently working on the front case getting that ready to be thrown on the block. I thought i would show everyone how i installed my evo 9 pistons just for future references. Enjoy

Bryce

Ok first you put the top ring for the piston into the cyliner. Turn a piston upside down and press the ring down about and inch or two untill the ring is in the cylinder straight