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I didn't know you had two! That is awesome Phil! I'm glad to see you preserving that part of DSM road race history!
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I have three questions.
1. Why was the number changed from 31?
2. Did they come with the Comptech engine?
3. Where is their 2G Talon?
I didn't know you had two! That is awesome Phil! I'm glad to see you preserving that part of DSM road race history!
Congratulations on your 2 pieces of history.
I hope you can get more info on the N/A 34 car with some engine specs, especially cams that are in there and comp ratio.
Ya I'm curious as to what they used for internals. What kind of tuning did they use??
I only ask because you mentioned the compression being bumped up to 10:1. That's 1 full point over stock. Have you done a compression test to see what the numbers come up.
The 34 car has ITA on the doors which it may be in reference to SCCA, IMPROVED TOURING class, very litlle was allowed to be done to the car, todays rules in this class are a little more liberal than they were back then, in fact even had to have a passenger seat in the car.
The cars were not classifed by engine size, it was base on their potential based on SCCA criteria.
I have read but haven't had any solid answers on it, but the edm N/A 4g63 engines had 10:1 compression engines and more aggressive tunes on there ecus. Now being that when the cars where raced it was in an era that those parts where a little easier to obtain here in the states.
Wonder if you can get an eye or scope down a spark plug hole to see if they are forged or a factory style piston.
Most edm cars I thought came from Europe. The ecus in those won't be usdm. Maybe pull the numbers off them unless they have been swapped. I think they came EPROM to.
Vin tags still any where on the car?
Interesting. Possibly.
Here's a bit of info I haven't shared yet:
#34 is a Canadian car. Instrument cluster is km/h
Wonder if Canadian cars were Euro spec...
I do not know of any Canadian cars that were/are euro spec. I do not a lot of Canadians that wish their cars were, though.
We had our own spec (no power seatbelts, metric gauges, DRLs, etc.) and that was about it as far as I know.
Checked rules for ITA and the car would still be legal by SCCA rules.
Are you planning on racing it?.
Finally have a chance to sit down on a computer and comment. Phil's been updating me on the progress of both these cars as well as given me a lot of history about them.
First I'll say that Phil has poured his heart and soul into these two pieces of DSM history, he's done a lot to preserve and more-so return that history by making them as close to original as possible. From utilizing multiple photographs to ensure the decals were exactly the same, swapping multiple parts, etc. He's moved them back to their "original glory".
I've known about the archer cars for quite a while, as I remember reading a little bit about them back in the Greg Collier days. But, I do not know their history and the impact they had like Phil has been able to reveal. As much as we think of our dsm's as drag race machines these cars were doing laps around real racetracks long before they were doing real 1/4 passes. To me it's extremely interesting and I'd like to hear/read more about what was done back in the day.
Anyways, keep up the good work Phil and I'm glad you're having a lot of fun with these two projects!
I've seen these cars and Phil's passion! The cars are amazing and I'm glad theyre in the right hands. Phil is like a DSM curator!!
Awesome news. Would love to see some video of the beast in action! Pictures of the work in progress as well.
Ya vids would be way cool!!!!