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MS install so far with pics.

Posted by selmerguy, Mar 12, 2006

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  1. XMasta19

    XMasta19 Proven Member

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    My fuel rail gets here today, install should start tonight or tomorrow. I'm pretty sure I still have your number layin around in a pm somewhere sam :thumb:
     
  2. Slo2gen

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    What ever happend to a write up?
     

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  3. VelocitàPaola

    VelocitàPaola Moderator

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    We have rules against bumping...
     

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  4. Slo2gen

    Slo2gen Proven Member

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    I guess I was just trying to get a formal write up from a member that had some pretty good pics of a MS install. Sorry guys.
     

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  5. VelocitàPaola

    VelocitàPaola Moderator

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    It was just a warning against bumping in general... you're fine. I'll try to do a writeup sometime soon since Sam left the 420A scene, but really, all the information you'll ever need is as megasquirt.info, msextra.com, and msefi.com.
     

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  6. Slo2gen

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    Yeah I have read the forums because I actually have a msns sitting in my room, but it always helps to see them on the car that I am going to be putting it on you know!? Looking forward to the write up though. Thanks, and sorry again.
     

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  8. Locke

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  9. bullettdsm

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    Check for pics now. I got most of them in there, so that should help tie the information in. I'll get the rest soon. Hope this helps.

    MB
     
  10. Locke

    Locke N/T DSM Wiseman

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    I was about to PM you on 2gnt about all those missing pics.

    But then I didn't. :shrug:
     

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  11. chris712vt

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    thanks, the pictures do help haha. I actually just read your write up either yesterday or earlier today without the pics, good info on the install. that might be me soon as well.
     
  12. Ajax

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    Great write up! Just want to add that if your MS is setup for 420a you do not the ignitor. In my case it fires the coil directly. Just for information of people that might get confused.
     

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  13. VelocitàPaola

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    Mark's was a special case because of a miscommunication, and the way the MS unit was pre-configured from Terry. I think he just went with the 4G63 ignitor for simplicity, rather than having to open up the unit and add another internal transistor.
     

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  14. XMasta19

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    umm....

    not all the 420a pcb's come with the on-board ignitor...
     
  15. VelocitàPaola

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    Ok... that doesn't mean you can't add them... As far as I see it, VB921s are the preferred method.
     

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  16. Ajax

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    Thats why I stated one that was preconfigured for the 420a.
     

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  17. bullettdsm

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    Funny we should have this conversation. I did choose not to use the VB921 because I find it interesting to use different DSM parts for a DSM (especially when crossing from NT to Turbo). Yeah, I'm a little Eff'ed up that way WTF . Terry and I did get the communication straightened out on the next one he sent me and she is on and running.

    This subject points out something that made this write up so difficult for me. There are so many different choices and ways to do this or that, that I at first tried to include "disclaimers" and footnotes about various differences. That made it choppy, wordy and confusing. I eventually pared it down to what it is right now. Pretty much a general idea of one way to do the install. I know that if I saw this prior to my own, I would have had a much higher confidence level when I started doing it.

    And Paul, not to spread rumors or anything, in my research I did see some unsolved problems with VB921's (at least in the threads). Some not working for no reason and some burning up. This doesn't mean that they didn't set dwells at like 25 or misconfigure their boxes (total possibilities). But I did see nothing but good stuff on the 1g ignitor. That along with the fact that it is a time proven piece (of course also, the cool DSM on a DSM connection) made me want to take that route.

    Not that one is better than the other. Just my reasoning for my choice.

    Thanks again to Paul and Terry :thumb: ,

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  18. VelocitàPaola

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    That's funny, because the more I looked into it, the more I saw people claiming their 10+ year old were dying from age.

    Either way, both methods have been proven to work fine. Anyone interested will have to do their own research to make an informed decision.
     

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  19. Ajax

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    O I completely understand your point and probs for doing the write up. Bc this is very helpful for bc im installing mine.
     

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  20. Locke

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    The write-up does make one more confident about hacking up their perfectly good factory harness.
     

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  21. bullettdsm

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    LOL :thumb:


    And Ajax, I'm really glad to hear that. You (in the general sense. For those that are going to do an install) are the reason that I wrote this up. I'm really happy to hear that :thumb:

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