mod plan

[crimsondragon]

I have my heart pretty much set for a Forge recirc BOV so I guess this is where I'll start off with. With that said, what UICP would fit forge bovs? I'm leaning towards Dave Brode or Dejon but any other good, cheap UICPs I'm open to suggestions as well. Would I have to weld different flanges on?

Also, I plan on getting a FMIC. Not within the next 6 months but perhaps a year once I save up enough. I was thinking something along the lines of ETS's street/strip 7' FMIC or any other FMIC that will allow me to keep my foglights. I'm still researching on this part. My question is, will the FMIC be compatible with the UICP that I'm going to get very soon that will fit a Forge BOV? I'm trying to save as much as possible with this game plan. Thanks.

 

[Kickin Asphalt]

Front mount pipeing is routed differently, I'm assuming you have the stock side mount? Just wait and see what you find. No pont in spending extra money on parts you won't use.

 

[crimsondragon]

Hm if it's routed differently then that sucks. I guess I'll just go with the Forge BOV for now and wait for an FMIC kit. Was really hoping for some hard intercooler piping though.

 

[snowborder714]

Front mount pipeing is routed differently, I'm assuming you have the stock side mount? Just wait and see what you find. No pont in spending extra money on parts you won't use.

That is not true. The Greddy piping kit can be used with the stock sidemount and then with their front mount. Some long route kits will work, but if you want to go short route with the FMIC, then that will be completely different. Other places that sell piping kits that should work are Punishment Racing and Dejon Tool. Easiest and best way to find out if it'll work with both SMIC and FMIC is to contact them and ask (or search the forums!).

Would I have to weld different flanges on?

Yes. Not that big of a deal and some of the companies listed might do it for you. All you have to do is ask.

 

[oldman]

That is not true. The Greddy piping kit can be used with the stock sidemount and then with their front mount.

Yea but the Greddy FMIC is overrated both in price and performance , I would just save up and get the BOV along with ebay FMIC/short route piping kit all in one shot.

 

[snowborder714]

Yea but the Greddy FMIC is overrated both in price and performance , I would just save up and get the BOV along with ebay FMIC/short route piping kit all in one shot.

I completely agree

But I figured I'd give him some options if he didn't want to get into upgrading the intercooler right now. But now that I look at the piping kit more, it's over 2/3 the price of a brand-spankin' new SSAC FMIC shipped...

 

[kenamond]

I don't know what flange is on that BOV. Search around and see if it's Greddy, 1g, or something different. You can get adapters that will let you use a Greddy or 1g BOV on the stock UICP if you can't wait to install the BOV (and it has a Greddy or 1g flange).

Make sure your BOV is recirculated unless you have the mods to vent.

The Dejon UICP can be flanged for either Greddy or 1g. I know, because they sent me the wrong one (Greddy) first followed by the correct one (1g). Like someone else said, contact the vendor and ask.

But I agree with oldman that you should just hold off on the BOV install until you have the FMIC with short route piping and the correct BOV flanged UICP. Buying the UICP for the stock sidemount means you either have to go with long-route or sell it or eat the cost of it. None of those are ideal.

 

[zacksgsx]

I think The SSAC FMIC piping only comes flanged for a 1G BOV. Of course you could modify it to rum whatever BOV you want.

 

[snowborder714]

I think The SSAC FMIC piping only comes flanged for a 1G BOV. Of course you could modify it to rum whatever BOV you want.

That is sort of correct. It does come flanged for a 1G (which can be easily modified to run a Greddy by just drilling new bolt holes). But if you want to run anything else, you'll have to remove the old flange and have the new one welded on. The flange that comes on it can't just be modified to run any bov.

 

[crimsondragon]

Yea but the Greddy FMIC is overrated both in price and performance , I would just save up and get the BOV along with ebay FMIC/short route piping kit all in one shot.

I looked into ebay FMIC before and I think they're nice and all but I don't know if they'll allow me to keep the fogs. The ebay ones seems a bit too large which was why I was looking into ETS since they're small, but efficient. I'm still looking into the maximum dimensions of L x W I can allow onto the bumper which will let me keep the foglights. I'm not too worried about depth. I can cut maybe 1 or 2 inches off to allow it on there. I'm thinking of a 3 inch depth core.

 

[oldman]

I looked into ebay FMIC before and I think they're nice and all but I don't know if they'll allow me to keep the fogs. The ebay ones seems a bit too large which was why I was looking into ETS since they're small, but efficient. I'm still looking into the maximum dimensions of L x W I can allow onto the bumper which will let me keep the foglights. I'm not too worried about depth. I can cut maybe 1 or 2 inches off to allow it on there. I'm thinking of a 3 inch depth core.

Fog lights are overrated, especially in NJ.

 

[crimsondragon]

Fog lights are overrated, especially in NJ.

Nuh uh. You never woke up in mid fall at like 6 in the morning to see nothing but fog? That's when they come in handy. Sometimes Rutgers get foggy too.

 

[AWD_Boosted4g63]

Nuh uh. You never woke up in mid fall at like 6 in the morning to see nothing but fog? That's when they come in handy. Sometimes Rutgers get foggy too.

fog lights do come in handy, and they also look great in my opinion, but w/e you think

 

[oldman]

Nuh uh. You never woke up in mid fall at like 6 in the morning to see nothing but fog? That's when they come in handy. Sometimes Rutgers get foggy too.

6 in the morning is also overrated, that's usually when I get to bed.

 

[emoguitarboy]

Well, If you're really wanting to go FMIC and keep the fog lights you could always to top to bottom intercooler, but I would suggest checking out siliconintakes.com cause they have really good deals, and if you know Jack (jackstransmissions.com) all of the guys that go to his shop run these cores... so far best has been an 11~ (that's 10 at sealevel). They're great cause they're only 150 for a decent size. The couplers there can't be beat for the price. Then make your own piping kit: http://www.performance-curve.com/index.asp (look under the mandrel bent exhaust) Mine I'm getting rid of the fog lights and I'm hooking it up to a t28 (same BS 90* elbow comming off of it) so i'm going to get 3 U-pipes, 2 x 45* and that should be enough. My setup is going to cost me just under 400.

I'm guessing that you're running the stock turbo setup, if you want me to I could get mine see how it works, let you know and fab a quality one for the price of one of those BS ebay ones (+ shiping) or you could look and DYI

 

[xxShaneOmac]

Do your mods in order so one benifits the others.
Dont get a UICP for your bov that you are going to scrap in a few months with a FMIC


ETS FMIC are top of the line. Mine fits perfect and allows for the sexy fogs to stay. They allso have many options to fit your style. You can choose from like 4 differnt bov flanges and you pick the type of medal they use and polished eetc. They hooked me up with the 2g pro street race kit 24x10x3.5 with full stainless steel polished short route piping flanged for my 1g bov shipped for 1k.
Thats alot compaired to SSAC but They are again this is one of the only kits that can let you keep your fogs. It fits perfect the welds are amazing and you can pick and choose the best. They make real good quality.

 

[DSMopar]

6 in the morning is also overrated, that's usually when I get to bed.

I agreee with that statement

 

[crimsondragon]

6 in the morning is also overrated, that's usually when I get to bed.

Not much of a morning person are you?

Well, If you're really wanting to go FMIC and keep the fog lights you could always to top to bottom intercooler, but I would suggest checking out siliconintakes.com cause they have really good deals, and if you know Jack (jackstransmissions.com) all of the guys that go to his shop run these cores... so far best has been an 11~ (that's 10 at sealevel). They're great cause they're only 150 for a decent size. The couplers there can't be beat for the price. Then make your own piping kit: http://www.performance-curve.com/index.asp (look under the mandrel bent exhaust) Mine I'm getting rid of the fog lights and I'm hooking it up to a t28 (same BS 90* elbow comming off of it) so i'm going to get 3 U-pipes, 2 x 45* and that should be enough. My setup is going to cost me just under 400.

I'm guessing that you're running the stock turbo setup, if you want me to I could get mine see how it works, let you know and fab a quality one for the price of one of those BS ebay ones (+ shiping) or you could look and DYI

Hm that one intercooler from silliconeintakes.com looks really nice. 31"x11.75"x3" - 3" Inlet/Outlet but can it fit without taking off the fogs? It seems a bit wide. Thanks for the offer on fabbing me some piping. I'll keep you in mind since I'm still trying to plan exactly what I want to go with. I'm running a T-25 now but I plan on moving to an EvoIII 16G. I don't plan on running more than 22 psi.

Do your mods in order so one benifits the others.
Dont get a UICP for your bov that you are going to scrap in a few months with a FMIC


ETS FMIC are top of the line. Mine fits perfect and allows for the sexy fogs to stay. They allso have many options to fit your style. You can choose from like 4 differnt bov flanges and you pick the type of medal they use and polished eetc. They hooked me up with the 2g pro street race kit 24x10x3.5 with full stainless steel polished short route piping flanged for my 1g bov shipped for 1k.
Thats alot compaired to SSAC but They are again this is one of the only kits that can let you keep your fogs. It fits perfect the welds are amazing and you can pick and choose the best. They make real good quality.

Yeah I really like ETS. From what I read on Forge though, it seems it can adapt many flanges on for different UICPs not like a Greddy BOV. I'll probaly do something simple and tell ETS to flange for 1g bov and Forge to make it fit like a 1g Bov. Problem solved.

 

[Denji]

I think its important to set goals for your car then do appropriate mods to reach that goal. You'll save yourself money and time. So.. What is your goal with this car?

 

[crimsondragon]

I think its important to set goals for your car then do appropriate mods to reach that goal. You'll save yourself money and time. So.. What is your goal with this car?

I'm not out to compete or anything, just maybe take it to the strip once in a while and have fun and meet people and have it be an icebreaker. It'll mostly be a DD and I'm for sure I don't want it over 400hp. It's really more of a hobby/career builder since I'm thinking being an aviation mechanic. I want it to be a mix ride of comfort, power, and practicality so I won't be taking out the back seats or removing the interior to save weight but I might invest later into carbon fiber hoods and trunk. I defintely want a FMIC with a DIY CAI installed. As stated above, the biggest turbo I'll probaly run is a 16G at no more than 25 psi. I just want a car I can take to the strip, race, and after the race, win or lose, say good "race man, that was a nice run." Nothing with constant problems, always changing out parts and/or minimal adjustments. I'm happy with the way it looks. None of the aftermarket body kits. I'll even keep the rear 2gb spoiler. Most I'll do to the body is replace the broken parts like my fender and bumper.

 

[xxShaneOmac]

If forge does that
Ask them to flange for 1g bov
and ETS will have the corresponding flange to fit. You can go with a street kit from them if you know for sure you are never going to want to push more then 400 hp and know that you didnt cheap out and got the best in form of FMIC and you get to keep the fogs you wanted.

But if your like me and wondered if I would at some time want to goto the 600 mark you can just get it over with a pro race right now :]

 

[emoguitarboy]

Well if you don't want the car too crazy, but really fun on the street I'd say go with the t28, its a direct replacement for the t2small and you don't have to change much. You could upgrade to 660 (or 850's if you want to run E85) and I wouldn't suggest over 20PSI if you're not wanting to do alot of internals and matianance. Get a good exhaust and a smaller FMIC DSM link and you should easily be a mid 13 second car 9able to beat most Hondas, Mazdas, VW's, etc. Defineatly complete the Free mods and Stage 1 ont he tech pages then a few of the Stage 2's and you should be sitting pretty.

Here's the tech pages: http://www.dsmtuners.com/sub.php?page=2gtupgrades

 

[crimsondragon]

Well if you don't want the car too crazy, but really fun on the street I'd say go with the t28, its a direct replacement for the t2small and you don't have to change much. You could upgrade to 660 (or 850's if you want to run E85) and I wouldn't suggest over 20PSI if you're not wanting to do alot of internals and matianance. Get a good exhaust and a smaller FMIC DSM link and you should easily be a mid 13 second car 9able to beat most Hondas, Mazdas, VW's, etc. Defineatly complete the Free mods and Stage 1 ont he tech pages then a few of the Stage 2's and you should be sitting pretty.

Here's the tech pages: http://www.dsmtuners.com/sub.php?page=2gtupgrades

yeah I'm working on the free mods. I did most of them except the check timing, boost leak test, throttle body cleaning and verifying WOT is 100%. Unfortunately I don't have much time except weekends to work on it. I plan on cleaning the throttle body this weekend though, install the boost gauge, see where my psi stands, and then do the leak test.