let me know what ya think of these logs

linksys42 · Nov 12, 2007

Sorry the logs are on here you just have to scroll down. cant get the space to delete.

log #1 17psi

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2gGSX · Nov 12, 2007

Your profile lists a wideband. What AFR did you tune to? Front O2 is at .95v which is a lot more rich than I would run.

Other than that, you have little to no knock and good timing advance. (I'm assuming those are "counts"). I can't tell how much airflow you're actually moving from that log. It would be helpful to have the mass-flow numbers versus the raw MAS reading, since all this is telling me is that you aren't overflowing your sensor.

On the other hand, even factoring in the 30% correction factor used by the SAFC to compensate for those 650cc injectors, you look to be flowing ~1800hz max which seems sort of low. Based on some bench racing and under the assumption that your MAS is not too far off from calibration, you should be around 31-32 lbs/min, which is fairly average given your mods.

One thing I did notice though was that you gain very little peak airflow from increasing boost, but you do get some more airflow in the middle of the powerband.

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Some part of your setup is choking the airflow it seems. My guess is the stock SMIC might actually be choking up some of your airflow, although I can't say for certain since AFAIK no one's bothered determining the max airflow of one.

daren_p · Nov 12, 2007

Is it just me or does trying to read those logs make everyone elses head hurt

As 2gGSX has said, your stock SMIC is probably holding you back up top. I know when I was running an evoIII around 18psi & a HRC SMIC, I picked up about 2 lb/min just by switching to a FMIC setup. I'm sure the HRC flows better then the stocker, so a FMIC should be a good next investment for you. Plus it should allow you to up that boost abit more, if wanted :thumb:

linksys42 · Nov 12, 2007

2gGSX said:
Your profile lists a wideband. What AFR did you tune to? Front O2 is at .95v which is a lot more rich than I would run.

On the other hand, even factoring in the 30% correction factor used by the SAFC to compensate for those 650cc injectors, you look to be flowing ~1800hz max which seems sort of low. Based on some bench racing and under the assumption that your MAS is not too far off from calibration, you should be around 31-32 lbs/min, which is fairly average given your mods.

One thing I did notice though was that you gain very little peak airflow from increasing boost, but you do get some more airflow in the middle of the powerband.
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Some part of your setup is choking the airflow it seems. My guess is the stock SMIC might actually be choking up some of your airflow, although I can't say for certain since AFAIK no one's bothered determining the max airflow of one.

I should have mentioned that when I was running the 17psi the lower honeycomb was in the maf, the fuel pressure was at 43.5psi. Which was insanely rich and in turn when I tried to lean it out with the SAFC it just kept lowing me in the stock timing map which bumped the timing up more and knock got worse because of the high timing all the way thru the rpm band. I couldn't lean it out any more than what you see in the 1st log which is really rich, it didn't even get above 10.0:1 on the wide band. The second pull is at 20psi lower honeycomb out fuel pressure at 40psi. Which brought my timing down and pulled alllllot harder but it is still running really rich (still not getting above 10.0:1 on the wide band but runs allot better). Now all that's left to do is lean it out more and finish my tune.

daren_p said:
Is it just me or does trying to read those logs make everyone elses head hurt

As 2gGSX has said, your stock SMIC is probably holding you back up top. I know when I was running an evoIII around 18psi & a HRC SMIC, I picked up about 2 lb/min just by switching to a FMIC setup. I'm sure the HRC flows better then the stocker, so a FMIC should be a good next investment for you. Plus it should allow you to up that boost abit more, if wanted

Plan on going with Meth injection next. just so i can get rid of the high intake temps and run a good amount of timing.

Thanks guys

2gGSX · Nov 12, 2007

The SAFC setup is what is holding you back right now IMO, on pump gas at least. Have you considered using a chip or switching to DSMLink, or something with real injector compensation?

linksys42 · Nov 12, 2007

2gGSX said:
The SAFC setup is what is holding you back right now IMO, on pump gas at least. Have you considered using a chip or switching to DSMLink, or something with real injector compensation?

Yep i know that its not that great of a tuning tool. But i cant justify spending that kind of cash unless i can find an eprom ecu with a chip for 650's for cheap. But i figure once i get the meth injection i wont have to worry about the high timing.

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