johnny racecar's fmic, who has one?

[Orso]

welp this thread will probably get locked... someone said Shut up.. cant be havin that



















Im just kiddin by the way.. Control yourselves dont want this to get locked like everything else. I need more info before i put mine on anyway. so keep posting good things about the Johhny racecar

 

[98spydert]

Im not bashing anyone here... but there are some people on this forum who like to see how a product performs before spending $200 on it. I find it hard to believe that not one person who has this intercooler could at least post logs of timing or airflow. I think everyone would benefit... and isnt that the point of these discussion boards?

Why do you find it so hard to believe? Why should we feel obligated to get numbers for you? You honestly think I'm going to spend my time and money so you can decide on an intercooler? I think everyone who has posted impressions, pictures, and install tips have already gone out of there way enough. IF we go to the dyno, be greatful there's numbers to match te part you're looking at. No one here is selling it or gaining anything from the sale or use of these intercoolers. How many times do people have to say "If it's not good enough for you, move on"?

I agree on waiting for complete testing and real numbers for parts, but in this case I chose to be the test bunny myself because of such a low price and good feedback from his older 5 and 6 inch honda used coolers. If you want real numbers, bug Tyrus about them. I put off going to the dyno until Feb when all of Sac-dsm is going and I sure don't feel obligated to go any sooner for this thread let alone post my numbers, especially with 18 pages of bitching and whining over no proof.

 

[98spydert]

And, this is the first request for timing numbers I've heard, maybe I just missed the others.

My timing peaks at 22* in 3rd gear at red line while pushing 20psi through this thing via evo3 16G with the supporting mods listed in my profile. 91oct Cali pump piss. no knock via keydiver knock gauge.

I use a tunerstien program and could never get the player to work so in order to get the logs on my computer I have to manually type them in which I don't feel like doing right now

 

[Stoner]

Im not bashing anyone here... but there are some people on this forum who like to see how a product performs before spending $200 on it. I find it hard to believe that not one person who has this intercooler could at least post logs of timing or airflow. I think everyone would benefit... and isnt that the point of these discussion boards?

I have this core on my 2g with dsm link. My pipes are almost done and I have a few other loose ends to tie up. Once I get the car back on the road and we get some decent weather (around 50*) I will post some timing numbers and air flow etc. But as said by the guy from Michigan, I am in Indiana and it is winter and colder than a witches t!tty. So it may be a while.

I wish I could do better Indiana weather suxxxxx

 

[Dfish1]

think'n about doing the jr intercooler setup, i got greddy intercooler pipes, could i keep the greddy pipes or should i just fab my own?

 

[coltboostin]

the tracks are not open. so seriously, shut up.

Very mature and enlightening. IT only snowed in 1/32nd of the US, and these intercoolers are all over, so don’t make excuses.

I am a tight bi*** when it comes to money to, that’s why I want to see some real results before I make a purchase of any kind.

 

[98spydert]

Very mature and enlightening. IT only snowed in 1/32nd of the US, and these intercoolers are all over, so don’t make excuses.

I am a tight bi*** when it comes to money to, that’s why I want to see some real results before I make a purchase of any kind.

Paypal me $50 to [email protected] and I'll go to the dyno for you.

 

[1badtsi]

back on topic, i also emailed him about a dsmtuners group buy but he hasnt returned my email yet

 

[Turbocharged]

I have this core on my 2g with dsm link. My pipes are almost done and I have a few other loose ends to tie up. Once I get the car back on the road and we get some decent weather (around 50*) I will post some timing numbers and air flow etc. But as said by the guy from Michigan, I am in Indiana and it is winter and colder than a witches t!tty. So it may be a while.

I wish I could do better Indiana weather suxxxxx

Thanks man... that might get the ball rolling for other people to post some logs.

Oh, and you think Indiana is cold, try living in Minnesota... it sucks :thumbdown !

 

[Bailzz]

back on topic, i also emailed him about a dsmtuners group buy but he hasnt returned my email yet

Thats great keep us updated on that, I've already decided on this intercoller but with winter here and I dont garage it, I'll probably wait till spring or if we get a group buy. If I'm not mistaking you started this thread, nice job. I had seen these IC's (eBay junkie) and JR's and was wondering about them.

On another note......WHERE ARE ALL THE 1G'S W/ THIS IC!!!!
sorry for the yealing but this has been said many times and no response, would like to see some pics of mounting and piping on a 1G. Keep the rest coming and yes stay on topic

 

[StyleElements]

Very mature and enlightening. IT only snowed in 1/32nd of the US, and these intercoolers are all over, so don’t make excuses.

I am a tight bi*** when it comes to money to, that’s why I want to see some real results before I make a purchase of any kind.

Like i would waste my time making excuses over you. why anyway, i done care enough. its not our job to enlighten you with some "REAL RESULTS" face it there fella, there are no "numbers" there will prolly never be any from this thread. if you have the money to go to the dyno before and after installing this intercooler, chances are you wouldn't buy this intercooler. numbers at the track? there are way to many variables with air pressure, humidity, temperature, stickiness of the track, and a whole bunch of other things that come into play to make any kind of accurate power gain measurements. when i installed my intercooler, i also installed a afpr, high flow fuel filter, and mess of other things. so there is no way i can know how much power just the intercooler made.

 

[coltboostin]

numbers at the track? there are way to many variables with air pressure, humidity, temperature, stickiness of the track, and a whole bunch of other things that come into play to make any kind of accurate power gain measurements

:laugh:


I'll give you a chane to revise this befor I proceed to rip on you.

 

[StyleElements]

:laugh:


I'll give you a chane to revise this befor I proceed to rip on you.

sorry home boy you dont know your ass from a hole in the ground

 

[Dfish1]

Thanks man... that might get the ball rolling for other people to post some logs.

Oh, and you think Indiana is cold, try living in Minnesota... it sucks :thumbdown !

i hear ya man, but my car is faster when it's cold and i can spin the wheels in the snow

 

[StyleElements]

i hear ya man, but my car is faster when it's cold and i can spin the wheels in the snow

yeah but what really sucks is before long your car will turn into a can of worms i thought they were developing a non corrosive substance to replace salt .. i hope they hurry up it kills me to put up my car for 5 months :thumbdown

 

[coltboostin]

. numbers at the track? there are way to many variables with air pressure, humidity, temperature, stickiness of the track, and a whole bunch of other things that come into play to make any kind of accurate power gain measurements

So, let me ask you how the top tuners, not only in our segment of the car world, but everywhere else get their perspective on if a certain mod produced gains? At the damn track. For example: why do you think John Shepard does not dyno tune, but tunes at the track? On that note, why do a lot of the top car gurus in the industry think dyno are shit PERIOD?

If the intercooler is doing you any good, you will see a gain even if its more humid, or hotter, or cloudy, WTF ever you want, as long as your not a legless fool for a driver, you will at least net better trap speeds. It has been my EXPERIENCE that most knowledgeable people look for track times before dyno numbers, because dyno numbers can be easily skewed at the click of a mouse, but track times never lie.

So go ahead and prove your little joke of a point, and while your at it, call Shep, Marco, and Dave B, and the rest of the most respected tuners in our sect of the car industry that the are ####ing idiots for judjung the true gain on a modification by track numbers.

 

[StyleElements]

So, let me ask you how the top tuners, not only in our segment of the car world, but everywhere else get their perspective on if a certain mod produced gains? At the damn track. For example: why do you think John Shepard does not dyno tune, but tunes at the track? On that note, why do a lot of the top car gurus in the industry think dyno are shit PERIOD?

If the intercooler is doing you any good, you will see a gain even if its more humid, or hotter, or cloudy, WTF ever you want, as long as your not a legless fool for a driver, you will at least net better trap speeds. It has been my EXPERIENCE that most knowledgeable people look for track times before dyno numbers, because dyno numbers can be easily skewed at the click of a mouse, but track times never lie.

So go ahead and prove your little joke of a point, and while your at it, call Shep, Marco, and Dave B, and the rest of the most respected tuners in our sect of the car industry that the are ####ing idiots for judjung the true gain on a modification by track numbers.

To see any ACCURATE power gains from a before and after install, you would need perfect IDENTICAL weather conditions. weather conditions effect a car performance immensely a slight change in conditions will throw any measurements off greatly. usually when someone tests something on there car, a performance part, fuel, tuning, they will test a before and after at the track on the same day. that's why its called, test and tune

 

[1badtsi]

Thats great keep us updated on that, I've already decided on this intercoller but with winter here and I dont garage it, I'll probably wait till spring or if we get a group buy. If I'm not mistaking you started this thread, nice job. I had seen these IC's (eBay junkie) and JR's and was wondering about them.

On another note......WHERE ARE ALL THE 1G'S W/ THIS IC!!!!
sorry for the yealing but this has been said many times and no response, would like to see some pics of mounting and piping on a 1G. Keep the rest coming and yes stay on topic

yeah i did start this thread, cause i had seen one on a friend of mines civic

but i really liked the look of the ic and i asked him how much it was and he said 195 i shit a brick, and its great to get all these responses, it has more than convinced me to get one since two friends of mine on this thread (trapspeed and 98spydert) have them and are amazed at the cooling rate of these particular ic's

 

[Bailzz]

To see any ACCURATE power gains from a before and after install, you would need perfect IDENTICAL weather conditions. weather conditions effect a car performance immensely a slight change in conditions will throw any measurements off greatly. usually when someone tests something on there car, a performance part, fuel, tuning, they will test a before and after at the track on the same day. that's why its called, test and tune

Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah why dont you guys start a new thread to argue track and Gain variables instead of wasting space. I hate clicking this thread and seeing a whole new page of nothing but arguing over something that has nothing to do with why the thread was origanally started. Annoying thing about this site is that is how every forum or thread is on this site, arguing instead of any kind of help or a positive .02 Arguing is for AOL IM......... :thumbdown

 

[StyleElements]

Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah why dont you guys start a new thread to argue track and Gain variables instead of wasting space. I hate clicking this thread and seeing a whole new page of nothing but arguing over something that has nothing to do with why the thread was origanally started. Annoying thing about this site is that is how every forum or thread is on this site, arguing instead of any kind of help or a positive .02 Arguing is for AOL IM......... :thumbdown

yeah yeah, well i apologize for being involved in an argument, but at least its a different argument, not the same old "why arent there any numbers" just trying to bring a little color to the thread

 

[DsmBoi50]

ever wonder why most dsmtuners threads turn into an agrument? i do...

 

[Stoner]

ever wonder why most dsmtuners threads turn into an agrument? i do...

I think that everyone should just "Agree to Disagree" and move on to the owners of the core discussing thier experiences weather it be dyno, track, impressions, or butt dyno information.

If someone wont buy something until we all have track and dyno numbers then they should just wait until someone posts them or buy another core that has been proven. The proven cores are more expensive because they have been proven. This core is new and unproven thus the cheap price. We all may have been screwed but hey maybe we got in on a good deal. All the answers will be out soon, just not today or tomorrow.

to everyone posting about real experiences and not fighting....

 

[coltboostin]

yeah yeah, well i apologize for being involved in an argument, but at least its a different argument, not the same old "why arent there any numbers" just trying to bring a little color to the thread

He is correct here. The usual argument here is between two16 year old goobers who don’t even have a car yet on which BOV sounds cooler. This is relevant to this thread, and Style is right in saying the accuracy might not be great, but you are 100% incorrect to say that it is an invalid method. Most likely, all the variables will be different from track day to track day, but ¼ mile track gains remain the standard for the measure or performance gain in our industry.

I understand that you guys are happy with them, but all I’m saying is we have yet to see a dyno, track time, hell, even a log of before and after. It is still unproven stuff to the DSM community. In I could not build intercoolers myself, I would probably pick one up also. It’s just too cheap to go wrong. I know there will be gains v.s a side mount, anything will do better than a side mount. The DSM community is just trying to see what the upper limits of flow and cooling capacity is for this unit. I.E. Good for a 16g, not enough for a 50 trim

 

[illtww]

ANyone have a list of what they used to put this intercooler on a 90 TSi? I am gonna have to buy one (very soon) but need some tires first...... (18's aren't cheap)

 

[4sfead]

ANyone have a list of what they used to put this intercooler on a 90 TSi? I am gonna have to buy one (very soon) but need some tires first...... (18's aren't cheap)

I bought two 2 1/2" U Bends,one 2 1/2" J Bend (tighter radius than U bend) and a 2" J Pipe from Summit and just cut what I needed. I dont have everything installed yet. I am still trying to determine the best route for the driver side piping. I will probably run it up and on top of the intercooler back to the Pass. side and through the D port there. I will have to buy 2 silicone 90 degree elbows to finish the job though.

The only other option I could see was to go under the driver side crossmember but I dont want clearance issues. If you find a better idea please PM me and tell me how to do it. The Passenger side is easy, just run it up to your existing UIP.

Here is the part #s from Summit. Came to $71.75 shipped.
SUM-621005
SUM-621008
SUM-622003