How low can you go?

[nmg72]

How low can a 2g FWD eclipse go without having to buy a camber kit?

 

[snowborder714]

Depends on how much camber you're running in the front and rear

Plus, toe is what really kills tires, not camber. Although excessive camber will add additional wear.

 

[nmg72]

Depends on how much camber you're running in the front and rear

Plus, toe is what really kills tires, not camber. Although excessive camber will add additional wear.

I went from stock springs to K Sport and they lowered the front too much for my liking so I went back to stock springs. I was hoping to lower it a little, like between .5 inch to an inch at most.

 

[snowborder714]

So your question more seems to be "What aftermarket springs can I use to lower my car a little, but not enough to need camber kits?".

If so, someone else will have to chime in as I only am familiar with coilover setups which allow adjustable ride height.

 

[T is for TURBO]

I went an inch and a half with no problems up front with camber. I did have a lot of negative camber in the rear that I was able to correct with a few washers behind the upper control arm mounting points. I took it into get a alignment and the guy claimed that the camber was pretty good. But my toe was way out of wack, however that was due to me doing and AWD swap and installing new toe bolts.)

 

[nmg72]

So your question more seems to be "What aftermarket springs can I use to lower my car a little, but not enough to need camber kits?".

If so, someone else will have to chime in as I only am familiar with coilover setups which allow adjustable ride height.

Pretty much that, but without having it turn into an opinion debate of which are the best springs.

I went an inch and a half with no problems up front with camber. I did have a lot of negative camber in the rear that I was able to correct with a few washers behind the upper control arm mounting points. I took it into get a alignment and the guy claimed that the camber was pretty good. But my toe was way out of wack, however that was due to me doing and AWD swap and installing new toe bolts.)

Thanks for the info. I should be safe doing an inch then.

 

[snowborder714]

I went an inch and a half with no problems up front with camber. I did have a lot of negative camber in the rear that I was able to correct with a few washers behind the upper control arm mounting points. I took it into get a alignment and the guy claimed that the camber was pretty good. But my toe was way out of wack, however that was due to me doing and AWD swap and installing new toe bolts.)

What do you consider "no problems"? What were your alignment specs? Wheels/tires can also have an affect if a weird offset or really wide tire are being used. Just don't want the OP to assume that a 1-1.5" drop can be done with no consequences.

Although, the front won't be affected camber wise nearly as much as the rear (which will need corrected for any somewhat significant drop), and is usually a good thing unless you're setting the car up for drag racing or it's a true DD with no cornering.


Your toe will be out of whack any time you change ride height. Whether you raise or lower a car, both camber and toe will change. When you adjust one (say, make front camber more positive), toe will change. It's the only thing on a 2g that you can adjust from the factory, and is the one thing that needs to be addressed every time a major suspension change is made.

 

[T is for TURBO]

What do you consider "no problems"? What were your alignment specs? Wheels/tires can also have an affect if a weird offset or really wide tire are being used. Just don't want the OP to assume that a 1-1.5" drop can be done with no consequences.

Although, the front won't be affected camber wise nearly as much as the rear (which will need corrected for any somewhat significant drop), and is usually a good thing unless you're setting the car up for drag racing or it's a true DD with no cornering.


Your toe will be out of whack any time you change ride height. Whether you raise or lower a car, both camber and toe will change. When you adjust one (say, make front camber more positive), toe will change. It's the only thing on a 2g that you can adjust from the factory, and is the one thing that needs to be addressed every time a major suspension change is made.

I agree totally. I simply meant to say that I was able to go with 1.5 drop with no camber kit in the front. I no longer have the alignment shop specs anymore, so I can't provide them for you, but if my memory serves me, the front was -.9° and the rear was around -2°. Wheels are 17X7.5 +40mm offset with a 235/45ZR -17 tire. I had no rubbing issues, except when going over a large dip in the road, but that is due to the shitty spring rates I have.

 

[snowborder714]

Sounds about right on the camber specs. If the OP sees that, I'd just recommend going a bit more positive than -2° on the rear and that'd be fine to run. Although -2° is still in factory spec for the rear of a FWD car (not AWD) so either way, you'd be fine. The front would be out of spec (just by a hair), but running a bit more camber up front won't hurt anything.

 

[warren]

Running on -2 and last 1 month so it's not worth it

 

[j5productions]

i bought my car lowered, id say its 1.5 lower? possibly 2? anyway my back wheels have slight camber (idk how much) but it is noticeable, yet my front, you cant see any negative camber. (fwd)
i got it alighend after i got it, and aparantly it was all out of wack, even the steering wheel was sideways

 

[undefined0000]

Just don't go this low

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1atLQqSbh4c]The Lowest Integra In The World....Hands down. - YouTube[/ame]

Please.

 

[Silver99OZ]

Hopefully they will have the video camera rolling when that idiot in the integra hits a bump and the air bag blows up in his face.

 

[j5productions]

Just don't go this low

The Lowest Integra In The World....Hands down. - YouTube

Please.

I'm just curious, but from all that exhaust scrapping does he have to always buy more?

 

[Black-Out]

Just don't go this low

Please.

Don't be hate'n.......

 

[Greenie]

i lowered my car 2" in the front and 2.5" in the back... didnt need to purchase a camber kit

 

[snowborder714]

What were your alignment specs?

I hate when people makes posts along the "I didn't need..." or "I never had any issues with..." but have no supporting data to back up their statement. This type of thing happens way too often on here.

 

[WES_393]

i lowered my car 2" in the front and 2.5" in the back... didnt need to purchase a camber kit

Didn't need a camber kit, or just did't install one? I highly doubt you were within factory specs with that much drop.

FWIW, this is my camber after 1.75" drop with the Tokico HPK kit and 4 washers with STM's camber kit. I know I'm still out of factory spec.

 

[miguelmcv]

I am not an expert when talking about lowering, but to the experience that I had when I lowered my car (thanks to snowborder who assist me), It seems that every car is different, some of us have a really good amount of adjustment to play with, which some others once doesn't have much.

I would opt more to get an alignment first and see how much of adjustment you have and go from there, Well that's if you don't want to buy a chamber kit, other wise you will end up buying the spring and then buying the chamber kit to compensate if you have not much room to play.

Just my opinion,

Sorry I couldn't resist to post.

I had a good amount of adjustment on one side which I can go with out the kit, But on the other side I was way off, so a kit was a must.

I checked every single peace of the suspension and couldn't find anything.

 

[foxracing4500]

who cares how low, how many miles can you go!

 

[WES_393]

I am not an expert when talking about lowering, but to the experience that I had when I lowered my car (thanks to snowborder who assist me), It seems that every car is different, some of us have a really good amount of adjustment to play with, which some others once doesn't have much.

Yes, but 2g's don't have factory camber adjustment in the rear. So a camber kit (or bolt-and-washer method) is usually necessary with lowering springs. With 2.5" drop I would be extremely surprised if the rear camber was less than 2*.