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Actually I tried using stock boost at 11 psi but it creeped to 19psi at around 4.5k rpm anyway so I just turned it up to 17psi and tuned. Guess what? It's getting better and better please look at the latest 2 runs I logged.

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I got pretty good top end now with 16+, but damn can't seem to get rid of the knocks at 4.5k to 5.5k. Should I go ahead and richen up the 4.5k and 5k more? I think it's running pretty rich already the O2 is at 0.98 but since it's not good tuning parameter I just tune for timing instead of O2. Pls keep providing input, thanks! :thumb:
 
I read your logs and noticed a trend. Im surprised nobody else thought of this. His knock at 4-4.5k or whatever is where that turbo likes to spike anyhow, thats the top of his torque curve. Compare the timing to how an EVO III builds boost on a dyno sheet, you'll agree with some of what im saying. You're going to somehow get that boost spike under control. Thats just my logical thinking(if you brave to say :D )
 
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