Having trouble finding a 6bolt

[lowandsleekDSM]

Ok, im having a lot of trouble finding a 6bolt here in tampa, fl...well in florida in general. i`ve searched the classifieds here and also on dsmtalk.com and other online forums. But i searched on ebay and found a couple of n/t 6bolts and i understand that the pistons and cams are different....but are the heads different? and i`m sure i have to change the water pipe and all that (anything else i might have to change?) So what i`m asking is would it be cost efficient to swap out the n/t parts for turbo parts? this is my last resort pretty much.

 

[lowandsleekDSM]

anyone has an opinion on this?

 

[Fiascoxl]

swap in turbo rods, pistons, and cams. then im pretty sure it would be a turbo longblock.

 

[silver bullit]

Heads are the same, only difference in 2.0 na and turbo
cams
oil squirter's for pistons
pistons
oil filter housing different but can be interchanged

Not sure but i think the oil pumps are to.

 

[Fiascoxl]

yeah +1 oil squirters. searching is your friend

 

[okm12346]

Ok, im having a lot of trouble finding a 6bolt here in tampa, fl...well in florida in general. i`ve searched the classifieds here and also on dsmtalk.com and other online forums. But i searched on ebay and found a couple of n/t 6bolts and i understand that the pistons and cams are different....but are the heads different? and i`m sure i have to change the water pipe and all that (anything else i might have to change?) So what i`m asking is would it be cost efficient to swap out the n/t parts for turbo parts? this is my last resort pretty much.

Go for Elantra engine, they are 6 bolt

 

[Fiascoxl]

4g67= Elantra 1.8

 

[lowandsleekDSM]

yea i knew i needed oil squirters just forgot to list it...but i never heard of the oil pumps being different....thats a new one to me.

 

[okm12346]

well, the old elantras have the 1.8, but 95 and up I think, but not sure its 4g63 6 bolt



yes, Im sure now it is 4g63 6 bolt engine

 

[Kalisko]

eBay Motors: Eclipse Gallant Talon JDM 4G63T 4G63 Turbo 90-93 Engine (item 350037041500 end time Mar-25-08 11:26:47 PDT)



eBay Motors: Eclipse Gallant Talon JDM 4G63T 4G63 Turbo 90-93 Engine (item 350036392280 end time Mar-23-08 11:58:42 PDT)

Here's 2.

 

[Kalisko]

Ha and I just realized they're who I bought my transmission from.

 

[lowandsleekDSM]

umm kalisko..if i had 2000...i would of gone that route already sorry....thanx for the help though....dont exactly have 2000 just to pull out and buy an engine

 

[lowandsleekDSM]

So going back to the oil pump thing....the oil pumps are different in the n/t and turbo blocks?

 

[6bolt2gdsm]

There isnt in any 6 bolts in the local junkyards??? The junkyards up here in the backwoods of west virginia are swamped with them.

 

[Kalisko]

my bad. You said you couldn't find any 6-bolts. Not that you couldn't afford any.

 

[lowandsleekDSM]

nope...i called 8 different places and all of them were like...nope sorry

 

[lowandsleekDSM]

its ok kalisko those are just a littlle out of my budget...well....maybe way more then just a little

 

[tkelly27]

There are none in the junkyard? NT long blocks lack oil squirters, have NT pistons, rods, and cams. That's all that I know of. What do you need a 6 bolt for anyways? Build the 7 bold right and save some of the 6 bolts for the cars that came with them. When I'm ready for a new engine I'm going to have to be posting questions asking about a 7 bolt swap : D

 

[lowandsleekDSM]

it would actually cost more to rebuild my 7bolt..and im not liking the idea of crankwalk

 

[ilikespeeding]

I have one extra. What price range are you talking about?

 

[6bolt2gdsm]

it would actually cost more to rebuild my 7bolt..and im not liking the idea of crankwalk

Although you hear alot about crankwalk in 7 bolt engines, most any engine can have crankwalk

 

[lowandsleekDSM]

I know the potential of crank walk in every engine, but i like the power potential of a 6 bolt then the 7 bolt. Seems the parts for a 6 bolt are a little cheaper actually then a 7 bolt. Atleast to me it is but can anyone tell me if there is a difference in oil pumps with the n/t and the turbo 6 bolts? i have a chance to buy a 6 bolt but its only the block and the rotating assembly....but i found a couple of n/t 6 bolts on ebay that are are a complete short block which is what i`m looking for.

 

[cruisintalonawd]

You can't just put the oil jets in either. Oil pumps are the same go or call a parts store and look at the part numbers

 

[lowandsleekDSM]

oh u cant just place the oil squirters in the n/t block? so then what would be the alternative? running forged pistons? ive heard you dont have to run the oil squiters if you run forged pistons

 

[ilikespeeding]

It's probably a good idea still. I guess it depends on how lean you want to run.