Grinded through the block :(

[banshee04]

So today I decided that I was gonna grind on my block a little so the new turbo could fit.

The hole is on the balance shaft hump of the block. My balance shafts are gone. I didnt know if its gonna be a huge concern or what.

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[4g63tc]

Umm, yes, there's a hole in the block.

Should be an easy fix, Weld the hole up, or Patch it with some thick Gauge Steel.
Drain the oil, and have a fire extinguisher nearby.

But I would pull the block, and have a machine shop do it.

 

[Flash]

What turbo did you find that you're trying to make fit?

 

[VETTE_50_TH]

God damn kids and their holsets and truck turbos. When will they learn....

 

[tazndrew04]

^ haha thats funny

 

[Burnett03]

So today I decided that I was gonna grind on my block a little so the new turbo could fit.

The hole is on the balance shaft hump of the block. My balance shafts are gone. I didnt know if its gonna be a huge concern or what.

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You are the reason some people should never work on cars.

 

[banshee04]

What turbo did you find that you're trying to make fit?

Its a Master Power T70.

Im fixing to pull the welder out and patch it. I dont see anything that it could affect. Only thing I see is a oil leak.

You are the reason some people should never work on cars.

Thanks man. I have grinded on alot of 4G63's before and have never remembered them to be this thin. I didnt grind on it that much at all.

 

[TurboDSM90]

Shoulda bought that 6262 when you had the chance!

 

[Flash]

God damn kids and their holsets and truck turbos. When will they learn....

I was thinking the same thing.

You are the reason some people should never work on cars.

We can't let this thread out to the world. It will cheapen the DSM name further and make us look even worse.

 

[Colt4G63 also]

We can't let this thread out to the world. It will cheapen the DSM name further and make us look even worse.

Or at least we need to change the title to, "Ground through the block". Grinded sounds a little retarded. Kinda like, "I putted a hole in my motor".

OP: If you have the clearance you need now, why not JB weld the turbo to the block? That should stop the leak. j/k

 

[banshee04]

Well, got the hole fixed. Brazed it up then tigged it. Its all good now. I feel like a complete moron and newb, if you'd say. Especially after doing this stuff for so long. Guess theres a first for everything.

I knew there would defintiely be some negative things on here. It is more of a "Pay Attention" type of deal. It can happen to the best of us. I knew better then to do this, but its fixed.

Hopefully everything is fine while it being on 30psi with that T70

 

[turboglenn]

This give me an idea if i decide to run a large turbo (or just something to mess with in my spare time)... I always keep a spare block and both mine are BSE'd.. i wonder if i could plasma cut the hump for theshaft off and weld plate over it, just blocking off the oil ports along the way, or are there ports that need to feed through to lubricate other items ? I know i'd have to have the block fully dissasembled and the tanked and cleaned before running it after this so before anyone assumes i'm an idiot and goes off about that, there's my disclaimer

To be honest i've never studied the oiling path well enough to know it off the top of my head, i just know to google for a picture of it in the turbo oiling threads when i need to see how it rund

I've already come up with a really cool solution to the water pipe.. i don't run one just an adapter to go around to the places needed without going behind the turbo, it's not something i'm currently running but it is sorta like the people that weld the AN line on the end of the water pump but using the stock hole

 

[banshee04]

This give me an idea if i decide to run a large turbo (or just something to mess with in my spare time)... I always keep a spare block and both mine are BSE'd.. i wonder if i could plasma cut the hump for theshaft off and weld plate over it, just blocking off the oil ports along the way, or are there ports that need to feed through to lubricate other items ? I know i'd have to have the block fully dissasembled and the tanked and cleaned before running it after this so before anyone assumes i'm an idiot and goes off about that, there's my disclaimer

To be honest i've never studied the oiling path well enough to know it off the top of my head, i just know to google for a picture of it in the turbo oiling threads when i need to see how it rund

I've already come up with a really cool solution to the water pipe.. i don't run one just an adapter to go around to the places needed without going behind the turbo, it's not something i'm currently running but it is sorta like the people that weld the AN line on the end of the water pump but using the stock hole

I have actually thought of that a couple of times before. I really don't see the point of the hump being there if the BS's are gone. But it's not something you can just get rid of. Nothing important is really there. It's not a structural part of the block and there won't be any compression leaking out, just oil.

 

[1997_GSX]

Good luck with that Master Power Turbo, FYI its a typical "won't last over 10 miles" chinese turbo.

 

[19Eclipse90]

This give me an idea if i decide to run a large turbo (or just something to mess with in my spare time)... I always keep a spare block and both mine are BSE'd.. i wonder if i could plasma cut the hump for theshaft off and weld plate over it, just blocking off the oil ports along the way, or are there ports that need to feed through to lubricate other items ? I know i'd have to have the block fully dissasembled and the tanked and cleaned before running it after this so before anyone assumes i'm an idiot and goes off about that, there's my disclaimer

The bores in the block for the front balance shaft are both fed from the main oil gallery that also feeds the mains. Theoretically, you could cut the balance shaft hump out and weld plate in there up to/just before that main gallery. I don't see a reason at all why you couldn't so long as you don't block that main gallery (duh!) and that you account for the front casing one way or another. Definitely an interesting thought.

Edit: I see the OP was on top of his game there and I was ling around.

To be honest i've never studied the oiling path well enough to know it off the top of my head...

Is it sad that I somewhat have?

 

[turboglenn]

Is it sad that I somewhat have?

Any man worth taking his advice usually can say this about many different things.. Now i know who to consult next time

 

[bastarddsm]

I ran into a similar issue once. I got a large socket stuck in the end of the front ballancer shaft cavity. I drilled a hole in the end and used a punch to knock out the socket. Then I tapped it 1/8" npt, and plugged it.

 

[banshee04]

Good luck with that Master Power Turbo, FYI its a typical "won't last over 10 miles" chinese turbo.

I've had 3 master power turbos before. All of then have been exceptionally good. I sold my first one to my buddy about 3 years ago and it's still on his car doing perfect. The other I had on my old car for 2 years and it was perfect. Now this one, I got from my buddy that came off of his 300zx and 240sx.

The older Brazillian made MP Turbos are wonderful. They actually sold out to China about a year ago. So I wouldn't trust them one bit.

All 3 that I have had are/were the Brazillian ones. I can't speak for the China ones.

 

[Slow91Laser]

It's funny everybody bashes Master power turbos , yet all the LSx guys use them with no problems and make easy 700whp with them....

Are they the best turbo? No, but there a great bang for the buck turbo and have been proved many times to last/make good power!

Op goodluck with that fix, hope it works out for ya!

 

[phunny]

It's funny everybody bashes Master power turbos , yet all the LSx guys use them with no problems and make easy 700whp with them....

Are they the best turbo? No, but there a great bang for the buck turbo and have been proved many times to last/make good power!

Op goodluck with that fix, hope it works out for ya!

Guys just like to repeat what the heard someone say with no facts, or just hearsay...

 

[banshee04]

It's funny everybody bashes Master power turbos , yet all the LSx guys use them with no problems and make easy 700whp with them....

Are they the best turbo? No, but there a great bang for the buck turbo and have been proved many times to last/make good power!

Op goodluck with that fix, hope it works out for ya!

Thanks buddy. The hole is fixed now. So its good to go now.

I've never had one problem out of Master Power turbo's ever.

Guys just like to repeat what the heard someone say with no facts, or just hearsay...

Yeah, thats how it goes and its going to continue to go that way. Thats just how people work.