going to AMS...

[NOSLO2PT0]

AMS makes enough to get by. You dont see the owners rolling around in million dollar cars and living in mansions (Hell alot of us still live at home )

So THAT'S how you all can afford to drive 500-700whp cars!!!!! I need to move back home!

Oh, and BTW, I can do ghetto hack work for 1/2 price Just look at my POS car!!

 

[AMS stampy]

not to start any thing but to say the evo 8 i/c is good for 11 is just wrong if you look at all the fast evos they are runnig different i/c i wish some people would just be queit and just let the man test his stuff and he will find out if his set up will work its not your money its his maybe in a month or two he will turn around and love or hate it. why ams not to say anything bad about there work its that they say they know everything or just about everything about dsm then why when i went in there for a b&m short shifter for my n/t and my turbo dsm they had to call around for alittle bit to see if it would fit my n/t that tells me there is something wrong with them and there are not as everyone make them to be. i know a few shops around ill that are better and have better prices then them.

well I will be the the first to tell you that we are not the foremost authority on Non Tubro DSM's. I consider everyone that works here an accreditied DSM guru but you will catch us off guard from time to time. I dont think that takes anything away from the quality and more importantly the knowledge of AMS. I have worked here for about 2 years now and I have seen one non turbo inside this shop...and it was a friends that we were helping out after hours.

We stand by all of our parts and services. By all means shop around. If we were not confident in our parts and work we wouldn't of lasted this long. I am gonna stay out of this one now. I dont want it to turn like so many other threads of this type on tuners have. Thanks to everyone for the kind words and I am sure I will be seeing/hearing from you in the near future.

Eric

 

[ITSME4G63]

You should for sure look at a diffrent fmic.

even your turbo choice, these days with all these new crazy turbos out you could go with a bolt on gt30r, 50 trim or 60 trim let alone a dozen other bolt on turbos that will work alot better then the evo 3 and cost about the same as a evo 16g, install kit,ect. talk to eric at ams about these turbos im sure he could guide you into the right direction. Jim

thanks for the info jim, youre a prime example for this guy, with your dsm always being out of commision that is for the same reasons u stated above

 

[ITSME4G63]

I cannot even count how many EVO III 16G's that boost creeped and then failed to do so once we ported open the W/G hole and put a larger flapper door in them. I can understand your speculation but it works. At least when we have ported them and installed the larger door.

Eric

wouldnt o2 dump help eliminate boost creep? advise him to get that?

 

[eclipsegsx9797]

thanks for the info jim, youre a prime example for this guy, with your dsm always being out of commision that is for the same reasons u stated above





[/QUOTE


the funny thing about this is, you dont know me nor have i ever meet you but yet you know everything about my car, when its out of commision as you say. im pretty sure what you posted is to try about put me down because for some reason again you love to try but you never do. all im saying is if your trying to put me down, stay off my ass! if you are actully telling him that ive tried these things then thank you. all im trying to do is help. ive made many mistakes with these cars and ive done many good things. the route i decide to take now is doing it right because then nothing messes up. Jim

p.s. this is the second time someone tried to take this thread another way, help this guy out sense all you guys are so great with dsm and he needs some help.

 

[ITSME4G63]

thanks for the info jim, youre a prime example for this guy, with your dsm always being out of commision that is for the same reasons u stated above





[/QUOTE


the funny thing about this is, you dont know me nor have i ever meet you but yet you know everything about my car, when its out of commision as you say. im pretty sure what you posted is to try about put me down because for some reason again you love to try but you never do. all im saying is if your trying to put me down, stay off my ass! if you are actully telling him that ive tried these things then thank you. all im trying to do is help. ive made many mistakes with these cars and ive done many good things. the route i decide to take now is doing it right because then nothing messes up. Jim

p.s. this is the second time someone tried to take this thread another way, help this guy out sense all you guys are so great with dsm and he needs some help.

jeez take a joke, nothing personal

 

[mlopez]

not to start any thing but to say the evo 8 i/c is good for 11 is just wrong if you look at all the fast evos they are runnig different i/c i wish some people would just be queit and just let the man test his stuff and he will find out if his set up will work its not your money its his maybe in a month or two he will turn around and love or hate it. why ams not to say anything bad about there work its that they say they know everything or just about everything about dsm then why when i went in there for a b&m short shifter for my n/t and my turbo dsm they had to call around for alittle bit to see if it would fit my n/t that tells me there is something wrong with them and there are not as everyone make them to be. i know a few shops around ill that are better and have better prices then them.

Do some research on some EVO's before you open your mouth. Im sure AMS does not work on N/t with turbos often. But then again who the hell does.

 

[Mirage2LTurbo]

Do some research on some EVO's before you open your mouth. Im sure AMS does not work on N/t with turbos often. But then again who the hell does.

Dude don't hate on the kid, I put a short shifter on my old 1gnt and went from a 16.94 to a 16.62 1/4 mi.

 

[AMS Eric #2]

not to start any thing but to say the evo 8 i/c is good for 11 is just wrong if you look at all the fast evos they are runnig different i/c i wish some people would just be queit and just let the man test his stuff and he will find out if his set up will work its not your money its his maybe in a month or two he will turn around and love or hate it. why ams not to say anything bad about there work its that they say they know everything or just about everything about dsm then why when i went in there for a b&m short shifter for my n/t and my turbo dsm they had to call around for alittle bit to see if it would fit my n/t that tells me there is something wrong with them and there are not as everyone make them to be. i know a few shops around ill that are better and have better prices then them.

This must have been before I started but I can see the confusion about the shifter for your car. You have a 2g NT 420A powered car. I could DEFINATLY see the possibility of a short shifter being different. You gotta think, almost everything from engine bay foward is Chrysler , there could be a very good chance the shifter is different also, we know for a fact the shifter cables are different.

The reason the phone calls were made is we like to keep mistakes to a minimum and time your car is there to a minimum. Would it have been better to just assume the shifiter fit, take yours out, get the new one and it NOT fit, then your car would have to sit around for days because we ordered the wrong part without researching it first? Wasted time costs us money which in turn slowly trickles down to the end customer, as it does with every product and service oriented business. We try to double check ANYTHING if we are unsure. The less mistakes we make and more effeciently we operate allows us to do as much as we can to help you guys out.

To sum it up in one sentence, if you asked me if that shifter fit a 95 NT, I would say I believe it does, but I cant be sure, and Id rather call and find out than look like an idiot IF I was wrong.

 

[volcom121]

1Fast97GSX...uhmm...NO i don't wanna race you

Naw j/p i've seen ur car too, and alittle on the fence bout tangling with you, but will see...

 

[1fast97gsx]

1Fast97GSX...uhmm...NO i don't wanna race you

Naw j/p i've seen ur car too, and alittle on the fence bout tangling with you, but will see...

ha just let me know when you're ready and I'll pick a day when its not broken . Actually ... where'd you see my car? Just wondering.

 

[Ronin17]

not to start any thing but to say the evo 8 i/c is good for 11 is just wrong if you look at all the fast evos they are runnig different i/c i wish some people would just be queit and just let the man test his stuff and he will find out if his set up will work its not your money its his maybe in a month or two he will turn around and love or hate it. why ams not to say anything bad about there work its that they say they know everything or just about everything about dsm then why when i went in there for a b&m short shifter for my n/t and my turbo dsm they had to call around for alittle bit to see if it would fit my n/t that tells me there is something wrong with them and there are not as everyone make them to be. i know a few shops around ill that are better and have better prices then them.

So AMS took their own time to do the research on a part when you should have already done the research yourself? Wow, sounds like a horrible shop

If that's your one complaint then AMS must be doing something right.

 

[clipise]

>Clipse your automatic right? yeah i seen u around...afta you get your stuff together we can run <

ill be more then happy to!

>p.s. this is the second time someone tried to take this thread another way, help this guy out sense all you guys are so great with dsm and he needs some help.<

yea, lets plz stay on the subject.

>Dude don't hate on the kid, I put a short shifter on my old 1gnt and went from a 16.94 to a 16.62 1/4 mi.<

was that a joke? if it was i thought it was funny( no offense if it wasnt a joke)

anyways....i did aquite abit research on everything i have chosen. honestly, im taking it to ams because i seen how well they worked ppls cars. example my friends galant vr4 that will prolly bring the fastest galant title back to chicago. and i most of my friends who have dsms and other turbo cars go there and they are very happy w/ the finished product. i been working on my car for 8 months in fixing it. and im just tired of all the work and want perfessionals work on it. and plus thier work is warrantied. if i do myself and say i messed up some where, im screwed. u get what im saying? i would take to hahns racecraft and have them mess w/ my car but i dont knw how they work and they dont specialize in dsms alone.


everyone is compareing me to evos and how evos change thier ic to go faster. now a evo 8 runs a 13.2 in the 1/4. i have more then enough supporting mods to take me to 12's w/ the setup im chooseing. all i want is 12's, thats where i would be happy. the setup i chosen i think would fit my budget and is perfect for my goal.

 

[JiveMasterT]

>Clipse your automatic right? yeah i seen u around...afta you get your stuff together we can run <

ill be more then happy to!

>p.s. this is the second time someone tried to take this thread another way, help this guy out sense all you guys are so great with dsm and he needs some help.<

yea, lets plz stay on the subject.

>Dude don't hate on the kid, I put a short shifter on my old 1gnt and went from a 16.94 to a 16.62 1/4 mi.<

was that a joke? if it was i thought it was funny( no offense if it wasnt a joke)

anyways....i did aquite abit research on everything i have chosen. honestly, im taking it to ams because i seen how well they worked ppls cars. example my friends galant vr4 that will prolly bring the fastest galant title back to chicago. and i most of my friends who have dsms and other turbo cars go there and they are very happy w/ the finished product. i been working on my car for 8 months in fixing it. and im just tired of all the work and want perfessionals work on it. and plus thier work is warrantied. if i do myself and say i messed up some where, im screwed. u get what im saying? i would take to hahns racecraft and have them mess w/ my car but i dont knw how they work and they dont specialize in dsms alone.


everyone is compareing me to evos and how evos change thier ic to go faster. now a evo 8 runs a 13.2 in the 1/4. i have more then enough supporting mods to take me to 12's w/ the setup im chooseing. all i want is 12's, thats where i would be happy. the setup i chosen i think would fit my budget and is perfect for my goal.

the mods you mentioned look like plenty to get you into mid to high 12s if not a little faster. the evo fmic is not the best core you can get, but it will serve its purpose. if you find it getting heat soaked at the track or something you might wanna get an ic chiller, or something, but for every day driving i know it will be fine cause evos use them daily and the evo3 16g is about the same size as the new evo turbo. im not 100% sure, but having seen them next to each other i think they are about the same size. anyway, the point is, i think you're in good hands with ams and i think you will be able to bang 12s with that setup. gl.

 

[spades_gsx]

im going to AMS prolly this week, if not next week. im going up there w/ $3000. im having them inspect my car for any problems and to change awheel bearing and then im going to get some mods and have them to tune my car.


im going to get a evo3 turbo ported and a 34mm flapper, evo 3 ported o2 housing, moter mounts, thermal catback w/ a test pipe, install my supra fuel pump, they are going to install my evo 8 fmic w/ custom piping and then tune the beast.

my mods are...625cc injectors, SAFC 2, AMS boost controller, balance shafts removed, arp head studs, mitsu mutli layer head gasket, k&n filter, dejon tool intake, 3'' hks downpipe, hacked mass air, crushed 1g bov, cyclone intake manifold, ported 2g exhaust manifold, boost and a/f gauge, i think thats all of them.



i know this is going to get bashed prolly for asking this question, but what hp and 1/4 time should i expect when im all done?

im aiming for at somewhere in the 12's.( hopefully im not being to greedy for the 1/4)

any ideas?

I'm in the same boat with you all i want to do also is run mid 12's. I to was considering going to ams also. I have purchased numerous parts from them and love to read about their cars and installs in modified mag. I also was planning on getting the same turbo setup as you but they wanted $720 for the turbo $300 for the manifold $160 for the o2 housing. Except for the turbo nothing else was ported that was extra. that still doesn't include labor. I ended up sending out my existing mani and o2 housing to get ported went with a to4b and did the install myself. Best expirience ever! In my opinion I think all DSM'ers should have some type of expierience modding their own cars. how elso are you going to fix it when it breaks down? dont get me wrong i still am going to get my clutch installed from ams,and a street tune, but anybody who has a DSM should not be afraid to hack their own car up.

 

[AMS stampy]

I am sorry if you were misquoted. We charge $275 for a ported 2G manifold brand new. Sounds like a little miscomunication. In any event We love customers that wrench on there own car. thats how we got started. Glad you are happy with your purchase. That isnt too common in this hobby lately.

Eric

 

[madkane95]

first of all i did my research i went in there and said i want the short shifter and he asked me what car is it for i said my n/t i already knew it would fit iand for my tsi he told me it will fit the tsi but maybe not the gs. i just dont think it is the shop that you alll make it up to be and i always look my stuff up before i by them.
and another thing in modified they say in one of there write ups that people are scared to race them and who ever has a ams sticker people back off and don't race them i sorry for one but i am not scared to race them at all. if there are so good how come a shop by the name of one6 knew that it would fit.

 

[AMS stampy]

look it is very obvious that despite out efforts in this thread that you have something against our shop. I am not about to argue with you and sway you otherwise. best of luck to you in the future with the modifications on your car. If you are happier with the shop you are using now then more power to you.

Let the record show AMS did not write the article about the Candy Brandy wine evo in Modified. It was written by the editor of modified and more so made reffrence to the several 450 plus hp cars that have come out of this shop. I personally cannot get any kind of a race with my talon and most of our close customers and staff are in the same boat. I am not going to start a "race some of our cars" post because it is simply not what we are about. Again best of luck to you in the future and maybe we will see you around. Take care.

Sincerly,
Eric Gaudi
Sales Manager
Automotosports.com

 

[spades_gsx]

everyone, everywhere has a bad exp. even with the best of shops. Its always the bad exp. that stick very rarely do you here about a good exp. with a shop unless it is brought up and even then the shop did just alright. I am not trying to stick up for ams or even trying to bash them because i to have heard bad things about them. I have also heard good things about them, but come guys all they do is work on dsm's all day, thats it nothing else I cant think of one other shop (around here) that specializes in just one type of car. in my opinion I wouldn'y trust a mitsu dealer with my car, and they are supposed to know dsms inside and out. this thread isn't about how good ams is or how bad ams. it was just clipise shop of choice bacause he happens to live in the area. amd i'm sure if there was another dsm shop closer to him he probably would have taken it there also.

 

[ITSME4G63]

look it is very obvious that despite out efforts in this thread that you have something against our shop. I am not about to argue with you and sway you otherwise. best of luck to you in the future with the modifications on your car. If you are happier with the shop you are using now then more power to you.

Let the record show AMS did not write the article about the Candy Brandy wine evo in Modified. It was written by the editor of modified and more so made reffrence to the several 450 plus hp cars that have come out of this shop. I personally cannot get any kind of a race with my talon and most of our close customers and staff are in the same boat. I am not going to start a "race some of our cars" post because it is simply not what we are about. Again best of luck to you in the future and maybe we will see you around. Take care.

Sincerly,
Eric Gaudi
Sales Manager
Automotosports.com

ha that article was awesome, I love the first page

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GANG MEMBER! :laugh:

 

[1fast97gsx]

anyone have more pics of the ams evo? Looks like it has shaved door handles in the pic??

 

[Black95TSIawd]

they did. go to their website.

 

[rjgeier]

l I personally cannot get any kind of a race with my talon and most of our close customers and staff are in the same boat.

True that.

 

[mlopez]

first of all i did my research i went in there and said i want the short shifter and he asked me what car is it for i said my n/t i already knew it would fit iand for my tsi he told me it will fit the tsi but maybe not the gs. i just dont think it is the shop that you alll make it up to be and i always look my stuff up before i by them.
and another thing in modified they say in one of there write ups that people are scared to race them and who ever has a ams sticker people back off and don't race them i sorry for one but i am not scared to race them at all. if there are so good how come a shop by the name of one6 knew that it would fit.

Dude, shut up and get out of here. You sound like an uneducated retard. The reason nobody knows about what your car needs is cause noone really wastes their time with NA DSMs. Those cars from AMS will smoke your ass.

Can I get an AMS sticker.

 

[GRNDSM]

I cannot even count how many EVO III 16G's that boost creeped and then failed to do so once we ported open the W/G hole and put a larger flapper door in them. I can understand your speculation but it works. At least when we have ported them and installed the larger door.

Eric,

I have started another thread for this subject, as this thread already has enough off-topic stuff...

http://dsmtuners.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1352948#post1352948

When you say "larger" what size are you talking about? I can almost see going for 32mm upgrade, but 34mm is just too large for this housing!

I recognize that boost creep is a MAJOR problem on this turbo and want to come up with an effective solution. Because, right now, I do not feel that 34mm flapper is such solution.